Post quality gone to shit

[gonzo]

I guess that Im imagining emails and such between Shemp and myself.
Both Joe and I see it that way as well as a few others around here and I know for a fact that Shemp does.

Remember Im the one that invited him here.

[sarettah]

Originally Posted by gonzo

I guess that Im imagining emails and such between Shemp and myself.
Both Joe and I see it that way as well as a few others around here and I know for a fact that Shemp does.

Remember Im the one that invited him here.

Did you reread the thread?

KC, who was not a reg, questioned the TGP model. Shemp and he discussed it some. Then Vick, who has always been against TGP, expressed an opinion as could be expected against tgps.

Noone attacked shemp. Two, out of many questioned the TGP model, while admitting it was here to stay.

So, you guys can remember it the way you want. Unless someone edited the posts, he was never attacked that I can see.

Except by Joesho a while later.

BTW, You announced Shemp arriving in June 04, Shemp had already been here back in March and February and had been welcomed quite warmly by all he encountered.

Shemps first postand his initial reception:
http://www.oprano.com/msgboard/showthread.php?t=31660

Anyway, you guys can remember whatever you want, I thought this was a no spin zone where when we encounter truth, we admit it.

Here's all thethreads Shemp posted in and I can't find anyone being mean to him.

http://www.oprano.com/msgboard/searc...searchid=21567


Except Joe

[Hell Puppy]

Originally Posted by sarettah

Did you reread the thread?

KC, who was not a reg, questioned the TGP model. Shemp and he discussed it some. Then Vick, who has always been against TGP, expressed an opinion as could be expected against tgps.

Noone attacked shemp. Two, out of many questioned the TGP model, while admitting it was here to stay.

So, you guys can remember it the way you want. Unless someone edited the posts, he was never attacked that I can see.

Except by Joesho a while later.

BTW, You announced Shemp arriving in June 04, Shemp had already been here back in March and February and had been welcomed quite warmly by all he encountered.

Shemps first postand his initial reception:
http://www.oprano.com/msgboard/showthread.php?t=31660

Anyway, you guys can remember whatever you want, I thought this was a no spin zone where when we encounter truth, we admit it.

Here's all thethreads Shemp posted in and I can't find anyone being mean to him.

http://www.oprano.com/msgboard/searc...searchid=21567


Except Joe

I think this is missing some back story info...

GonZo in particular had been after Shemp to post for nearly a year, ever since he came to Atlanta. Told him we'd love to have him, Oprano really was missing that TGP persepctive and a lot of the players over here were finally testing the TGP waters (which was true at that time).

Now go re-read the thread with that back info.

Did he feel welcomed and that people here were receptive to hearing what he might have to say and bring to the table regarding TGP's? No, it felt more like an attack on his whole business plan. And happened right out of the gate.

His reaction was he didn't need that shit and he bolted. And hasn't had much use for GonZo ever since...

Interesting side impact there was GonZo was brokering some traffic trade deals for TGPs being run by some of the regulars here via Shemp and they were getting some fine traffic from it. Some of the same ones in that thread. That traffic went away...

[sarettah]

Originally Posted by Hell Puppy

I think this is missing some back story info...

GonZo in particular had been after Shemp to post for nearly a year, ever since he came to Atlanta. Told him we'd love to have him, Oprano really was missing that TGP persepctive and a lot of the players over here were finally testing the TGP waters (which was true at that time).

Now go re-read the thread with that back info.

Did he feel welcomed and that people here were receptive to hearing what he might have to say and bring to the table regarding TGP's? No, it felt more like an attack on his whole business plan. And happened right out of the gate.

His reaction was he didn't need that shit and he bolted. And hasn't had much use for GonZo ever since...

Interesting side impact there was GonZo was brokering some traffic trade deals for TGPs being run by some of the regulars here via Shemp and they were getting some fine traffic from it. Some of the same ones in that thread. That traffic went away...

I see I see said the blind man. So business deals got canned.

But, the possibillity is that it isn't the people who expressed their opinion's fault. The thread was initially about the Hun banning paycounters and such. Shemp came in on page 2 and expressed his opinion.

That the rest of the group did not necessarilly agree with him (but actually, if you read the thread, many did) is not the groups fault.

Not to be too sarcastic, becuse I have heard many really great things about Shemp, but did he expect everybody to go "oh you are so smart" or something. He was talking to people who have been in business as long as he was. They were not disrespectful or really harsh (definitely not harsh by webmaster board standards).

It is not the groups fault that shemp left and business blew off. It is not Gonzo's fault that shemp left and business blew off. It sounds to me an awful lot like it's Shemp's fault that he left and business blew off.

(Damn, i am glad I didn't post in that thread, it ain't my fault, that one is for certain)

And that is ancient history for the most part but it probably ought to be looked at for what it really is before decisions are made with that being any part of the underlying base of the decision.

[JR]

thanks for the inspiration guys!
http://www.fuckedwebmaster.com/?p=31

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by JR

thanks for the inspiration guys!
http://www.fuckedwebmaster.com/?p=31

BLOGS RULE!

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by sarettah

Not to be too sarcastic, becuse I have heard many really great things about Shemp, but did he expect everybody to go "oh you are so smart" or something. He was talking to people who have been in business as long as he was. They were not disrespectful or really harsh (definitely not harsh by webmaster board standards).

One lesson out of this is you shouldnt talk smack to your benefactor.

Im sure that since he had traffic exchanges running he expected at least common courtesy.

Shemp is one of the nicest and genuine guys in the business. Honestly Sare... I equate this to the kp beatdown you got. Just uncalled for and counter productive all the way around.

That behaviour has gotta change... and thats inclusive of myself!