Post quality gone to shit

[sarettah]

Originally Posted by JoesHO

the last crew had paid posters ( remember you were one of those before nick turned on you for your morals and needed a whipping boy for page views)

the only peole that have left from that crew that were not already gone was the paid posters . and the chinese fake alexa hits.

Just to make a point. I never got paid by Oprano until I became a mod and I did have duties besides helping to keep the board going by posting.

I posted just as much crap prior to getting a pay check as I did after I started receiving it.

Being paid to mod and being paid to post are two different things.

If you think I am wrong to go after good business men and potential new blood, I am sorry you feel that way. But I wish you well in all your endeavors and enjoyed the time you spent here while I was around.

You can go after the new without ditching all the old. There is plenty of room.

Shemp ( if he will accept our most humble of apologys for the way he was treated by a bunch of assholes here before )

Go back, find the thread and reread it. Shemp was not treated like an asshole.

The rest is fine. Just could you quit acting like everyone that has stood by and kept posting and kept participating is totally fucking worthless.

We, the fucking worthless, do not appreciate it.

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by sarettah

We, the fucking worthless, do not appreciate it.

I sell Joespeak translator cheap!

We discussed this to, during and from Charlotte... so I can sum this up pretty easily.

I dont think anyone feels your worthless. Ive enjoyed some of your counterpoint on more than one occasion. Keep on keeping on brother.

We are saying that this board is changing. Things arent the way they used to be no matter how much some of yall wish and scream for them.

Sig policy is much looser than its ever been. Ask CJ.

We tolerate a LOT more drive by spam than we used to. Ask MikeAI.
To be quite honest I didnt give much of a fuck about it until Dianna got ripped off by one of em and Epassporte told her to fuck off.

So we got a place to put the press releases [more free advertising] that some of yall are so fond of. I dont care if it hair lips the Pope either ... post the fucking announcement once. And if you go to the trouble of posting you can go to the trouble of replying to the thread as well.

Im sorry if the new direction offends some of you. Oprano is a business and these changes will ensure that the board remains as opposed to its orignal fate of being a full page advertisement for a proram.

Thanks for your loyalty and faith Sare.

[sarettah]

Originally Posted by gonzo

Im sorry if the new direction offends some of you. Oprano is a business and these changes will ensure that the board remains as opposed to its orignal fate of being a full page advertisement for a proram.

Thanks for your loyalty and faith Sare.

Gonzo. I have no problems with the direction of the board. I have no problems with you and I appreciate the thanks.

I think someone, you, joe or whoever is seeing something that isn't there. I have not seen anyone complain about the direction of the board.

However, I have heard Joe coming off as somewhat as a highhorse. And after he brought up Shemp in the earlier post I went and did some refreshing of my brain. The thread where Shemp got offended is here http://www.oprano.com/msgboard/showt...0&page=3&pp=50

It happens to be, imho, one of the best business discussions I ever witnessed on this board, and nobody treated shemp like an asshole. (page 2 and 3 are where shemp is involved).

In fact, if you do a search, Shemp was treated like gold when he got here, from the first day right on through.

Until, a day or so later, in this thread http://www.oprano.com/msgboard/showthread.php?t=35456

called Re: Why are most TGP guys such whores...

And I see Joesho be the first one to be an asshole towards Shemp.

Originally Posted by JoesHO

Say Shemp for example... and why do they feel they are so important, I mean be for real, the business model is necassary, But once you build all the traffic up, from them, why keep shooting yourself in the foot like some of theses guys do , I mean why not keep being good at it, and trading and building your traffic forever, why limit yourself? am I missing something?

A whore with limitations is not a very good thing to be is it?

But he is so willing to point fingers at everyone else and try to put the blame for Oprano's slowness on us.

He is rewriting history as it suits him and it is bullshit and it does get old.

Oprano had a rep as a mean board for only one reason, because you might have had to pass through Serge's gauntlet once or twice if you got too big for your britches.

You guys want to pull in newbies, fine. You guys want to allow looser spam rules, stuff like that, fine. It is your board.

But, I'm still gonna call bullshit when I see it.

[Hell Puppy]

Maybe I'm reading too much into it all. But I dont think anyone has ever said all the old crew needs to hit the road. What I have read into things is that the old dogs may need to learn a few new tricks or at least be tolerant of new patrons.

We have a lot of people who hang out here who have been here from day one, some of them are out or nearly out of the business. But they still hang out because they are part of the community. I see absolutely nothing wrong with that, many of them are funny and intillegent and contribute a lot to the board.

I think what everyone needs to be careful of though is where business threads are concerned not to make it a hostile environment for newbies or people who are doing business in new ways.

A beat down for anyone new is almost a tradition, but it has also stifled new blood. Very few have passed the initiation and survived to earn a bit of respect and hang around in recent years. Joe is one, Pushpills is another.

The thing is if someone comes thru and starts asking questions about TGPs, the shave on traffic trading scripts, etc, the correct answer isn't to jump on 'em and tell 'em why giving away tons of free porn are the reason the business is no longer as good as it was in 1998.

You have to adapt or die.