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Old 02-12-2006   #1
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Masterpiece Magazine will allow men, women, and couples to place their erotic photos and possibly their personal information within our pages for a small price. We are currently in our start up phase. We are seeking venture capitalist or angel investors to help fund our start up phase in exchange for equity in Masterpiece Magazine. We are seeking $800,000 to $2.5million for financing masterpiece Magazine until we become profitable. If you think you would be interested in becoming partners in this venture please contact us at info@masterpiecemagazine.net for more information. Check out our website www.masterpiecemagazine.net
As a woman, I wouldn't want to pay to post my pictures anywhere like in a magazine, where you would be reaping the profits off my imagery, without some kind of compensation. This is a bad business idea... you're hoping to make money off the people who both put their images in the magazine, as well as off the customers who you are hoping would buy the magazine. Given that there are several individuals out there with completely whacked ideas of what is "erotic" nevermind awful photographers, I think this is a bad route to go. You'd end up with some truly awful images, and I am not seeing any indication that this is a well thought out plan either in this post, or in any of the rest of the thread.

Answer me this, if you can. Why should I pay you, to make money off me? If money is to be made off one of my personal images, I'd quite like to be receiving some of that cash.

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Well, believe it or not, this is an ingenious idea. Think about the auto trader. Why would people put their cars in a magazine instead of the internet? How many people you know would put a nude photo on the internet? A lot of them. To me that's not physical evidence. Physical evidence is something you can pack up and take with you. Masterpiece Magazine is that physical evidence. You would love to tell your buddies I was in a magazine, because thats not common in the world. Sure you can put your photos on the internet, but hell you would get lost in the millions of other photos on the internet. Then it really wouldn't mean shit. You would break out of the box with masterpiece magazine. Then, your buddies would envy you because you were in a magazine and now they want to be in a magazine. So you tell them, CALL ME and get ya credit cards ready!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Comparing a magazine of images to the Auto Trader, is again very poor business thinking, nevermind business planning. The auto trader first of all is free to those who wish to look at it, (because they are hoping to BUY A CAR) Individuals PAY to put images of their car into the Auto trader, because they are hoping to SELL THEIR CAR. I am not offering up prostitution, so really when I am to reap zero financial benefit from paying for this personal advertising (which is advertising nothing beyond my own arrogance) then there is no reason for me to pay. I can be arrogant elsewhere, and share my pictures through other avenues, for free. (This could very well be why a magazine like this does not already exist, because it is a BAD idea, not an ingenious one)

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Everyone lets not assume so much. I have a business Management degree. If you don't like the idea then don't worry about it. Don't post assumptions to make me look like an idiot. That's not adult!!!!!!
Getting defensive over the fact that people other than you, (and I'm going to add that you're very biased since this is YOUR idea) don't like the idea, is very immature. People are going to post their "assumptions" and their questions and their opinions and we don't have to do that to make you look like an idiot, you're doing a fine job of that part all on your own.

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Jealousy is a deadly sin!!!!! Like I said before if you don't agree, don't worry about it. I'm a legit business person and I have the drive to succeed in whatever I do. I don't have to answer your questions to get your approval, I don't need your approval. Are you going to invest in Masterpiece Magazine? Judging by your assumptions, I guess not. Don't down someone else's dreams. That's not adult!!!! You make me think you were bullied in school so you feel comfortable downing other people from the security of a home computer. That's not adult!!! Let me finish off by saying thank you, but no thank you. You can keep all assumptions to yourself
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Your attitude is increasingly unprofessional, and leaves me to wonder whether you have in fact any kind of a degree beyond a high school diploma. If you have even that. Asking questions is hardly jealousy, and pointing out that you are being an idiot is not jealousy either. Its just that we are superior to you, plain & simple. Don't get upset about it, the sooner you realize & accept that no matter how far up the ladder you may climb that there will always be lessons to be learned & someone who knows more than you, then the sooner you'll be able to move up the ladder with the aid of the knowledge of those who DO know more than you. What's more, is that to gain investment as you call it, (or a handout is what it truly looks like you're asking for, and a rather large one at that) ...you DO have to gain approval.

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I'm not upset, I just don't understand if you think my idea sucks why worry about it? Why waste time to type bullshit? Why say im a young dummy? What for? Do you get pleasure? Do that make you feel smart? Just a few questions.
You are not upset, yet you are getting defensive and slinging insinuations of jealousy & idiocy about. Very unprofessional, and not very well received in the *ahem* Adult, world... nevermind the business one.

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You are the type of people, that will find something wrong with everything I say and make a joke out of it. That's cool, I expected that. I can deal with your criticism as long as you don't get ugly. I don't want to post my business plan on here. We are in the start up phase of operation. I, Jarquis McCoy, am the owner of Masterpiece Magazine. I have my business management degree from York technical college, a 2 year school. Yea I've never ran a magazine plubication before. As far as running Masterpiece Magazine, I will hire the right personnel for the job. Masterpiece Magazine will be broken down into two parts customer version and a newsstand version. This way we could get as many people as we want. For ex. Lets say we receive 100,000 customers, we would make different versions of masterpiece mag., we would put 500 to 1000 photos in each version according to the area they live in. So if we have 100,000 customers that send us 100,000 photos then we would have 100 different versions with a 1000 photos each. This is would be our customer version. The newsstand version will be chosen out of our customer version. Contest will be ran for the best photos. Marketing- Adultfriendfinder and all of their affiliates, ect Advertise on all of the adult chat, dating, and personals. Too see a full business plan please email info@masterpiecemagazine.net
I have a sample page for you too
Again you are jumping to conclusions. "You are the type of people.." --You have no idea who we are, you have no idea what our experiences are, yet you come here looking for a 2.5 million dollar handout, refuse to give a business plan, refuse to answer any reasonable questions, become argumentative, and stating elaborate brilliance such as "I will hire the right personnel for the job." That's real in depth. And here I was thinking you were planning on hiring the wrong personnel?

Now, you said it will be broken down into two parts. Newsstand & customer version. I'm curious, who are the people who will buy this magazine off the newsstand, if not customers? I'd think of a different term for this "customer" version of yours.

And finally...

If you assume that all that there is to learn in life, has been learned from your classroom, then you have already failed before you have even begun, and your professors have also failed to teach you that EXPERIENCE tends to be the best method of learning. You're not talking to classmates here, you're talking to superiors & you'd be well advised to take a different approach than the immature & defensive & close-minded one which you have displayed so far. Your determination & ...passion, is a good thing yes, however if used unwisely it can also be a fault.
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Old 02-12-2006   #2
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If you assume that all that there is to learn in life, has been learned from your classroom, then you have already failed before you have even begun, and your professors have also failed to teach you that EXPERIENCE tends to be the best method of learning. You're not talking to classmates here, you're talking to superiors & you'd be well advised to take a different approach than the immature & defensive & close-minded one which you have displayed so far. Your determination & ...passion, is a good thing yes, however if used unwisely it can also be a fault.
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How about your return tactics? If mine is making an ass out of me, then what is yours? How about we are making an ass out of ourselves. You are very contradicting in what you post. Im an ass for what I post, but you're not.
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How about your return tactics? If mine is making an ass out of me, then what is yours? How about we are making an ass out of ourselves. You are very contradicting in what you post. Im an ass for what I post, but you're not.
I took away points because your making my head hurt, your on dial up and your sounding like Lawrence Conner now.
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I took away ppoints becasue your making my head hurt, your on dial up and your sounding like Lawrence Conner now.
I hate to say it, I really do, but LC made sense compared to this guy.
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How about your return tactics? If mine is making an ass out of me, then what is yours? How about we are making an ass out of ourselves. You are very contradicting in what you post. Im an ass for what I post, but you're not.
You came on here, asking for 2.5 million dollars. That on its own is pretty outrageous for a start. You then got defensive towards comments & people who disagreed with your IDEA. God forbid anybody should have an opinion that doesn't coincide with yours, is the impression YOU gave.

So you don't agree with my opinion. That's fine, and even predictable, given how you've responded to others whose opinion has not matched your own.

Truthfully, however, no I am not an ass for what I post. You are new to this board, and those who are here are likely also aware that I have a MUCH greater capability to be an ass towards you. I'm being polite towards you, yes I am pointing out the error of your ways, its so you can fix them. Marketing is a key part of business at all levels, not just a part of promotion of the end result. So far you're not doing the best job of marketing yourself for what you're trying to accomplish. You still have not answered any of my questions, by the way, and do not come back with the retort that "The answers will all lay in the business plan & you can email me at ________ to get a copy" because frankly if you can't answer the last question I asked, then you've really got a LOT of work yet to do on this plan and are not yet to the stage where you need to be asking for 2.5 million dollars.

Let me repeat it real quick.

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I pay you to get my picture in your magazine, what for? What benefit do *I* reap from it?
That is not the question of an investor, that is the question of a ..."customer" (someone who would be paying to submit their images). It can be answered by you without a business plan.

By the way, don't take such offense to me probing you to think. Thinking is good.
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Im an ass for what I post, but you're not.
wrong again...she is a NICE piece of ass and you are
just an ass.
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so... i have read everything in its entirety and can
summarize this "investment opportunity" and
saintjaq with a simple image.

but it has given me a great idea. I am off to GFY to
ask for $5,000,000,000.00 for my Colonize the Moon by
2008 project! It will put my 13 days of owning an ant
farm when i was 6 to good use. Wish me luck!

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What type of wine would you bring along with you?
I think 1945 Mouton Rothschild will fit your personality to the T....
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Going by what I read, sounds good to me.
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I appreciate your indept analysis of my post, but you only picked the negative points about my professionalism and my magazine. You get your picture in my magazine for a small fee. That's a choice the customer would have to make. There are millions of diff. people throughout the world., not just Sin. Your post shows me that you took your time to really pick out all of my comments towards others. And your wrong, unless you are interested in being partners with masterpiece magazine, and by that I mean email me personally to get my full business plan, then I don't have to amuse you with an explanation of my business. Again, I really do appreciate your comments , but lets focus on my business idea. I know there are people out their that try to make an ass out of people. Please, lets not be one of those people. Again If you do not like my idea, then don't worry about it.
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Sin,
I appreciate your indept analysis of my post, but you only picked the negative points about my professionalism and my magazine. You get your picture in my magazine for a small fee. That's a choice the customer would have to make. There are millions of diff. people throughout the world., not just Sin. Your post shows me that you took your time to really pick out all of my comments towards others. And your wrong, unless you are interested in being partners with masterpiece magazine, and by that I mean email me personally to get my full business plan, then I don't have to amuse you with an explanation of my business. Again, I really do appreciate your comments , but lets focus on my business idea. I know there are people out their that try to make an ass out of people. Please, lets not be one of those people. Again If you do not like my idea, then don't worry about it.
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Psss what about women get in the mag for free and men have to pay
(your male to female applicants may be unequal to start)

How are you going to get apps to start (let's say you'll need 25-50 total apps to start)?

Who is selling your advertising, what type of advertisers will take space in your publication (think you're going to generate enough revenue from just apps and newsstand sales)?

You've got an idea and a lot of moxie .....
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I appreciate your indept analysis of my post, but you only picked the negative points about my professionalism and my magazine.
I quoted your entire posts, if negative points are all I picked, then negative is all you've shown. It says a lot about your degree of professionalism & if you don't like it, ...well, only you can change it. By the way, your levels of grammar & spelling leave a great deal to be desired as well, for someone who is claiming he is a professional.

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You get your picture in my magazine for a small fee. That's a choice the customer would have to make. There are millions of diff. people throughout the world., not just Sin.
Yes, I pay you to get my picture in your magazine, what for? What benefit do *I* reap from it? The mere prestige of publicly posting private images? Of being able to tell my friends "Hey I'm in a magazine?" ...in the end, it amounts to little IMO especially since its a magazine entirely of individually submitted pictures, it would hardly make my presence in the magazine special, removing supposed prestige. Again, the comparison to Auto Trader is a poor one, the benefit that the Auto Trader submitted pictures reap, is they get their car sold.

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Your post shows me that you took your time to really pick out all of my comments towards others. And your wrong, unless you are interested in being partners with masterpiece magazine, and by that I mean email me personally to get my full business plan, then I don't have to amuse you with an explanation of my business. Again, I really do appreciate your comments , but lets focus on my business idea. I know there are people out their that try to make an ass out of people. Please, lets not be one of those people. Again If you do not like my idea, then don't worry about it.
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My problem with this part of your last post is that yes I did take the time to really pick out all of your posts. I always feel it is best to cover all the bases, especially when the further posts merely further helped me prove the points I was making.

As far as you "having to amuse me with an explanation of your business" ...well, I'd say given that you came on here & your first post was a request for investment in the amount of $800,000-2.5 Million, then yes, you better be prepared to give an explanation of your business to people. Nobody has tried to make an ass out of you on this board, you are the one who has jumped to that conclusion on your own when faced with questions & people who didn't like the concept. Someone not liking your idea is not them trying to make an ass of you, and neither is someone asking questions about your plan to further their own understanding of it. You returning said statements & queries with defensive tactics however, IS making an ass of you.
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