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Old 01-10-2006   #1
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"As far as the amount of heat brought upon this industry by spam, I don't think it did half as much damage as did credit card schemes and the like."
and most of the spam put you straight into some sort of cc rip off...come on.

" You can see a whole lot of near naked folks all over the place."

But not sucking dicks...nudity is not pornography.

Junk mail is different. It is not something that is going to influence young people one way or another except by selling them another ipod or something.
That spam that Whitcon was mailing was pretty nasty stuff. I also disagree with a lot of that supposed "mainstream" pharma shit. A bunch of totally uninformed webmasters selling drugs like ersatz viagra...which, as it turned out, contained real viagra which can cause all kinds of heart problems.
This is just wrong. And don't blame the consumer for trusting the vendor. That is like blaming the victim.
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And don't blame the consumer for trusting the vendor. That is like blaming the victim.

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You know, I have never actually believed that.....
I buy a car from ford, the gas tank explodes....its my fault? Caveat emptor. I don't think so.
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You know, I have never actually believed that.....
I buy a car from ford, the gas tank explodes....its my fault? Caveat emptor. I don't think so.

Depends on who has the bigger pockets in court most of the time. Ford would never up front take responsibility for an exploding gas tank until it was forced down their throat and you know that. Look at the shit with the tires a few years ago. Ford trying to pass it off on Goodyear, Goodyear trying to pass it back on Ford and it took a bunch of fucking people dying before the law ever got involved. That is the way big money business is played.

So, yes. Caveat Emptor. It is up to the consumer to protect themselves. Since the first day that one ape picked up a shell and decided it was worth something and then found out that he could trade the shell to another ape for a big shiny rock (stupid fucker, shit, he doesn't know theres like a billion of these over by the big wet thing) someone has tried to scheme on how to get the most shells while giving out the least amount of rocks.

We have laws against some of it but the United States was founded as a capitalist country. Business is given a lot of free rein and it is usually up to the consumer to prove he was wronged before any action is ever going to ber taken.
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Depends on who has the bigger pockets in court most of the time. Ford would never up front take responsibility for an exploding gas tank until it was forced down their throat and you know that. Look at the shit with the tires a few years ago. Ford trying to pass it off on Goodyear, Goodyear trying to pass it back on Ford and it took a bunch of fucking people dying before the law ever got involved. That is the way big money business is played.

So, yes. Caveat Emptor. It is up to the consumer to protect themselves. Since the first day that one ape picked up a shell and decided it was worth something and then found out that he could trade the shell to another ape for a big shiny rock (stupid fucker, shit, he doesn't know theres like a billion of these over by the big wet thing) someone has tried to scheme on how to get the most shells while giving out the least amount of rocks.

We have laws against some of it but the United States was founded as a capitalist country. Business is given a lot of free rein and it is usually up to the consumer to prove he was wronged before any action is ever going to ber taken.
Yes America is a capitalist country and blah blah blah...but welcome to the internet...it is the world....

As a great American once said..."Get out of the new world if you can't lend a hand....the times they are a changin..."
More true now than in 1966.
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Imho, the only folks who get ripped off in these schemes are ones who are trying to beat the system to begin with.

I am not going to win a lottery I didn't enter.
I am not going to get an application for a .005% home loan approved when I never applied.
I know that it is illegal to but prescription drugs without a prescription.
I know that no guy in Nigeria really wants to send me 200bazilliion bucks that were left when the president of that oil company died.
If I give someone my credit card number, they are going to charge something to it.

The folks that succumb to the scams are just as bad as the folks trying to perpetuate the scams.

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Later in my practice, I began to treat some hookers and strippers. They made it clear to me that the Johns with whom they dealt were suckers. Give them a little sexual excitement, and you could get them to pay all the money they had. Men were so easy to control. I now feel that trying to identify who is controlled, and who is being controlled, is six-five, pick 'em. And when I try sorting out who is the victim and who the perpetreator of manipulation, I can't tell the knife from the wound."

Or as Robert Heinlein would say TANSTAAFL
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