Alien and Confucy....

[gonzo]

I dont care what he makes.
The only income I am concerned with is my own.

[TheLegacy]

Originally Posted by gonzo

I dont care what he makes.
The only income I am concerned with is my own.

I wish many more had that attitude.

[Weg Cory]

Originally Posted by gonzo

I dont care what he makes.
The only income I am concerned with is my own.

Hopefully that is true. He is actually a nice guy, you would probably do ok just being cordial to the guy.

But hell I am a "wus," and we all know that restraint is a sign of unintelligence.

[JoesHO]

Originally Posted by Weg Cory

Hopefully that is true. He is actually a nice guy, you would probably do ok just being cordial to the guy.

But hell I am a "wus," and we all know that restraint is a sign of unintelligence.

Not true, cory many in the indusrty are " wussies" but they are still very sharp.

Alien needs to realize this is the ADULT business, and he sould act like an adult.
if you really wantto help you friend then remind him of that.

if it is not important to him then that is his perogative, and since he is doing so great, he should not care what anyone thinks, or does he need someone else to remind everyone he is successful does he?

High school is over around here. we are taking business to the priority in 2006. those interested atre welcomed, those that are not, can stay where they are. cause at teh end of the day a true businessman does not care what the other guy is making or no making or who he "" knows " or doesn't

If Alien is doing business for the POPE himself good for Alien, he should be happy and not always looking for something to piss about with people.

people in this industry are tired of the pissing it has out stayed it's welcome and business people no longer do it. plain and simple.

[Weg Cory]

Originally Posted by JoesHO1

Not true, cory many in the indusrty are " wussies" but they are still very sharp.

Alien needs to realize this is the ADULT business, and he sould act like an adult.
if you really wantto help you friend then remind him of that.

if it is not important to him then that is his perogative, and since he is doing so great, he should not care what anyone thinks, or does he need someone else to remind everyone he is successful does he?

High school is over around here. we are taking business to the priority in 2006. those interested atre welcomed, those that are not, can stay where they are. cause at teh end of the day a true businessman does not care what the other guy is making or no making or who he "" knows " or doesn't

If Alien is doing business for the POPE himself good for Alien, he should be happy and not always looking for something to piss about with people.

people in this industry are tired of the pissing it has out stayed it's welcome and business people no longer do it. plain and simple.

Are we all being honest?

I would love to respond to this, however I should likely just chalk this up as my last post here. haha

[JoesHO]

Originally Posted by Weg Cory

Are we all being honest?

I would love to respond to this, however I should likely just chalk this up as my last post here. haha

do whatever you wish Cory. Oprano survived long before you and will live long after you . if the last post comment is a threat of some sort. if you want to come and do business then please come back.

if you want to come and hold some sort of grudge then go where you feel you can most help your business and hold that grudge.

that dog will not hunt here any longer .

[Weg Cory]

Originally Posted by JoesHO1

do whatever you wish Cory. Oprano survived long before you and will live long after you . if the last post comment is a threat of some sort. if you want to come and do business then please come back.

if you want to come and hold some sort of grudge then go where you feel you can most help your business and hold that grudge.

that dog will not hunt here any longer .

Haha

Man, what are you talking about? I have no issue with this place in general, we opened up an advertising account here.

Fact is, everything you stated about Alien (albeit true or not), can be projected on Gonzo just as easily. I don't "threaten" people. Gonzo made threats on GFY, look inward for the answers man.

The last post comment was sarcasm based around saying what I think being the fuel for all kinds of ramblings, most of which I do not partake in. I don't hold grudges. Nick and Anthony didn't exactly like me at first, but I would say it is fair to say that I really get along with them now.

[JoesHO]

Originally Posted by Weg Cory

Haha

Man, what are you talking about? I have no issue with this place in general, we opened up an advertising account here.

Fact is, everything you stated about Alien (albeit true or not), can be projected on Gonzo just as easily. I don't "threaten" people. Gonzo made threats on GFY, look inward for the answers man.

The last post comment was sarcasm based around saying what I think being the fuel for all kinds of ramblings, most of which I do not partake in. I don't hold grudges. Nick and Anthony didn't exactly like me at first, but I would say it is fair to say that I really get along with them now.

well pull up a chair and enjoy your stay then. and welcome to the NEW Oprano.

[TheLegacy]

Originally Posted by Weg Cory

Haha

Man, what are you talking about? I have no issue with this place in general, we opened up an advertising account here.

Fact is, everything you stated about Alien (albeit true or not), can be projected on Gonzo just as easily. I don't "threaten" people. Gonzo made threats on GFY, look inward for the answers man.

The last post comment was sarcasm based around saying what I think being the fuel for all kinds of ramblings, most of which I do not partake in. I don't hold grudges. Nick and Anthony didn't exactly like me at first, but I would say it is fair to say that I really get along with them now.

I hear you - after 10 years you tend to build up enemies who never met you in person but take offense to posts etc. that have your name on it. I try to speak well of people even if they hate me - and those that simply have an atttitude that is negative no matter what, I tend not to recommend them or have any business dealings at all...

I am 44 - and figure I have another 44 years of good life in me, Im not going to spend that in arguments and negativity. I have a great job, awesome wife who is the hottest around and a happy life = why interrupt that with useless small minded people who feel they need to bash everything and everyone to get recognized? I have more than enough friends in this industry to really care and get concerned

[vdc-Loki]

back stabbing? I think not, lets go back over what I have said here....

Post #3 "It doesn't matter how much biz he gets, or who he knows imho, when you spend almost every waking moment in the public eye acting the way he acts it WILL hurt future biz, and truth be told you can only live so long off old clients and a few big ppl.

I used to give him the benifit of the doubt and wrote it all off as a marketing / branding idea gone wrong, but as time progressed I think I was wrong.

Trolling is one thing, stirring shit is one thing, but constantly fighting loosing battles is another thing all together, it's a shame too, he does have a good head on at least on the phone, and I do like some of his designs."

Post #6 "fighting with Gonzo is not what I was reffering to, I find alot of humor with that one actualy.

I was reffering to the countless "Take me serious" posts, followed by just utter mind-numbing posts. He publicly announced on gfy a few weeks ago that he was looking for work, needed work, wanted to rep a company, then the sec someone called him broke he went right back to the name dropping, self indulged dribble as always, yet he still wants people to respect him and take him serious, THATS the loosing battle in which I speak of.

The comment he made about DA still has me laughing." <--- And it was the thread involving your DA comment that made me just say forget it.

I cannot try and defend someone who time and time again does the same shit, the deffinition of insanity is "doing the same thing over and over thinking the outcome will change"

Also when EVEN AFTER we talked on icq that night about Xobile and Ohmobile, when I reminded you who Xobile was and why I could nor would I jump to the defence of a company I knew nothing about and at the same time bash a company I work for. you went in and started bashing on my company, it boils down to that old adage "nothing personal Just biz"

the worst thing is what like a year ago you wanted to do a tie in with Gonzo & I and you never showed up to meet him, then after that you two have been having your "tifts" on gfy. that comes back on me, as I pushed for that, again "Nothing personal Just biz"

When I defended you time and time again telling people you were diff off the boards, and actualy were not a moron, (you know the same shit I said here) and told you allthough it was funny you realy needed to chill it out, then the last threads and attacking the company I work for?

so yeah in your own words:

"I think ya really screwed yerself.
Have a good life."

Don't see how but what ever, this is busniess, and if it's going to hurt mine to keep trying to stick up for you then I can't keep doing it, read all my posts here, theres no backstabbing, I don't work that way and you damn well know that.

-Loki-