Bush is wrong, again!!

[PornoDoggy]

Uhhh ... excuse me.

You cited a source (History Channel) as verification that torture works.

I questioned the source, albeit with sarcasm. I did not mean to imply I think you are a moron.

Start posting that the Democrats are going to be responsible for the next terrorist attack, and you will qualify.

The question about Bush v Gore as CinC after 9/11 is intriguing. There is no doubt in my mind that we would have crushed Afghanistan after 9/11 - we would have done that under Ralph Nader.

I personally believe that we would not even be in Iraq - certainly not under anything remotely resembling the current circumstances - under a Gore Administration. That would eliminate much of the falderal and hoopla about this issue. I also believe that a Gore Administration would not operate under the same ideaology as Bush does, so the public attacks on adherence to international treaties (including the Geneva Conventions) would not be occuring.

You are entitled to your opinion on what is an acceptable risk. Mine differs. You are entitled to think my reasons are selfish. I don't agree. I personally think my opinions are grounded on what the United States is and stands for.

[JR]

Originally Posted by PornoDoggy

Uhhh ... excuse me.

You cited a source (History Channel) as verification that torture works.

i cited a documentary of an event and the source of the info was the people who were directly involved.

I personally think my opinions are grounded on what the United States is and stands for.

the above is interesting and i understand what you are saying. so ok. lets agree that america is the epitome of all thats holy and good in the world. ... that still leaves a question to be answered... how do you extract information from a terrorist?

you also said

I can't speak for anyone else, but I don't have any objections to removing the genitals of an individual responsible for a terrorist attack with a very dull knife over a long period of time.

is that what "america stands for"

if you found out your dad was the terrorist, would you want his balls cut off? or are you just being selective in your reasoning?