Bush is wrong, again!!

[PornoDoggy]

Oh, fuck. By gawdamitey, torture must work - they said so on the History Channel!!!

I haven't seen that one yet, but I can tell you that it's hard not to hear the grinding of axes beneath the soundrtracks of many of their shows (both left- and right-handed axes, I might add). I've seen a number of History Channel shows in the last couple of years that suggest that the biasedliberalmedia has been infiltrated by elements of the vastrightwingconspiracy. I will have to check it out.

I agree that this is not an issue that can be decided with an exchange of platitudes. My objection is not so much that certain interrogation techniques are employed as it is in the way that they have been employed to date.

The broad-brush attitude and incomprehensible ineptitude of the Bush Administration is what made the debates in Congress necessary.

The alternate theory to "shit happens" is the Rev. Niemoeller quote, of course.

Nobody seems to mind when shit happens unless the shit is happening to them and theirs.

[JR]

Originally Posted by PornoDoggy

Oh, fuck. By gawdamitey, torture must work - they said so on the History Channel!!!

right. because i am just an uneducated moron who does not have an informed opinion about anything unless its spoon fed to me by bush or from a documentary. it was just a documentary about the bombings and the cia agent who was responsible for the interrogations with a lot of interviews from all those involved including him and others that worked with him. i dont think the history channel was telling him what to say. i am willing to take the position that what i just said is well documented, historical fact. if you can challenge that, please do so.

saying that bush is responsible for a debate on torture is pure lunacy. the conversation has always been about how to extract information from terrorists and what the limits should be... if you believe bush is responsible, then you would have to also argue that this debate would not be happening if Gore was president and 9/11 happened. can ya do that? ....didn't think so.

[JR]

Originally Posted by PornoDoggy

The alternate theory to "shit happens" is the Rev. Niemoeller quote, of course.

Nobody seems to mind when shit happens unless the shit is happening to them and theirs.

acceptable risk. stop being selfish. this is about the security of 260,000,000 people. not the security of your aunt edna.