It's the Medias fault no it's the government's fault no blame Canada no blame .......

[Robin]

Originally Posted by sarettah

Anybody except the ones who are actually responsible for the shit.

In this case, the parents. It is their job to ensure that the kid has a healthy diet and remains active rather than pumping them full of mickey d's fat pills and plopping them down in front of their computer/tv/xbox/whatever other electronic babysitter they choose.

But blaming advertising because kids are fat??

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...AdaL8&refer=us

You know, I think you are discounting the real power of advertising. If it didn't work then companies wouldn't spent BILLIONS on it each week.

It *really is* the large junk food purveyors that are mostly responsible...

[sarettah]

So, based on that logic....

Alcoholism can be blamed on the beer companies.
Diabetes can be blamed on the candy companies.
Credit card debt- The credit card companies and the consumer product companies.
etc etc etc

They all spend billions bombarding us with messages to buy buy buy....

JR, same logic applies to the war in Iraq. The administration hired PR people, fed lines of bullshit, etc but you have claimed in other discussions that it was up to the individuals to decide their viewpoint and they were not responsible for what someone thought.

You can't have it both ways.








If we do not protect the big food composiums right to say "EAT ME" we could end up losing the right to say "EAT ME"......

[Robin]

Originally Posted by sarettah

So, based on that logic....

Alcoholism can be blamed on the beer companies.
Diabetes can be blamed on the candy companies.
Credit card debt- The credit card companies and the consumer product companies.

Alcoholism - No - that, I believe has been shown to be something you are born with. If you drink alcohol your brain makes you want more and more - far in excess of any 'normal' person.

Diabetes - Absolutely, you can blame that on all the high fructose corn syrup and sugar in sodas, on all the fat in burgers, all the sugar in candy. If they were not advertised so heavily they would not be so desirable.

Credit Card Debt - You betcha - what's in your wallet! ?

Now - I don't say these companies are doing anything illegal - or even say they should be stopped. But I do say they are morally responsible for what they do. The same way Wal-Mart is morally responsible for destroying thousands of Downtowns (but that's another story).

[JR]

Originally Posted by sarettah

JR, same logic applies to the war in Iraq. The administration hired PR people, fed lines of bullshit, etc but you have claimed in other discussions that it was up to the individuals to decide their viewpoint and they were not responsible for what someone thought.

i'm sorry, i am confused with the iraq analogy. are you comparing Saddam to Ronald Mcdonald? last i checked, Bush was not targeting 4-12yr olds for support. an adult can be held responsible for his decisions. a child cannot.

i think an obese child is of course the failure of the parent. but i think this issue is a little different than all others in that the parent has to fight 100,000 messages a day and hundreds of billions in marketing annually and litterally 10's of trillions in marketing before 18, telling that kid that eating pop tarts, cookies, candy and fast food is a great thing to do.

people in this country and in the western world in general are getting fatter every year. people have no perspective anymore on what good eating habits are and yet people will say "its the responsibility of the parent".... so ... what about the 10,000,000 parents that are failing? what about the children that will be fucked up for life battling weight and weight related problems until they die? what about their children that are going to be caught in the same cycle?

as a general rule, i couldn't give a fuck what people do. but when i see countless people destroying their kids everyday... i think the "its up to the parent" arguement begins to breakdown.

feb 15. that is the target launch date of a magazine i have created with a partner will be launched. its about womens health and fitness. why i am doing it? first its a lucrative market. second, i am SOOOOOOOOO FUCKING TIRED of watching people destroy themselves and their children. i have decided to put my money where my mouth is on this very issue.