I cannot stand some people...

[sarettah]

Originally Posted by Sin

Basically a summary is that there's a couple places that put up signs saying children were welcome, but they were to use their "indoor voices" and while a cafe got a LOT of support on their move and a few angry parents, a hotel lacked support (understandably, that's a totally different atmosphere)

Boils down to "Sure kids will be kids, but don't overuse 'kids' as an excuse for bad parenting" Some of the time is okay, all of the time is not.

And the part in bold at the bottom

Muchas Grassintheass

My true feelings on all of this and I will shut up and go back to whatever it is I do

Kids are kids. They aren't perfect and neither are parents. The kid comes along, there is no manual, there is basically our personal experiences and beliefs guiding our business of raising the kid. If we get them to 18 alive we have done a great job. If we get them to 18 alive and drug free we are doing an outstanding job. If we get them to 18 alive, drug free and without any children in tow we have scored the grand slam. But we all are figuring it out along the way every second of every day.