The biggest difference between the business now

[domtheboy]

Originally Posted by Nickatilynx

No I think it has been taken to extremis to be honest.

There always was the guys just killing time etc etc

But in all honesty nowadays I feel there is no point in posting things I know will make money or improve the money someone makes.

For example you criticise Zeinna site and she gets all cunty...

She does not realise that she has had a wealth of experience in various fields giving her blunt advice....she takes it as everyone is "dissing" her rather than accepting it as a hard time lacking short but sweet criticism.

In all seriousness if she had handled the situation well , argued her way out of it...had a better attitude and basically impressed when she had the opportunity ,I'd have more confidence in sending traffic to her.

And I think she would have got way more traffic impressing 5 readers of this board than having her hand patted and being told "don't listen to the nasty men" on another board....

Its a change in peoples attitude over the years.

I think ...in fact I know... a lot of old school players read this board...

However they don't want to chime in on business because:

a.) no fucker listens..
b.) they will get in a moronic piss with someone without a clue
c.) there comments will be lost in the 100 "great programs" , "Awesome" "congratulation" posts...

As for the advertising they see here...

They come to Oprano because it is the old school board...no spin..

If a sponsor comes on and argues there cash explains why there program is better than an other...states mailer contact us for deal...etc etc

Some might sign up for programs that advertise here...but honestly...most are not gonna be persuaded to sign up for an Ipod , nor are they gonna want bimbettelucy of wankercash as their affiliate rep LOL.

For myself I would be more tempted to signup for a program that seemed professional and smart and on the ball...

A lot of what makes me decide where to send traffic is on what they don't say...the parties they don't throw...etc etc...weird?

Maybe I am.. LOL

But seriously treating Oprano as GFY from a sponsors point of view will never yield the rewards here.

I think it takes a different approach to land an old school whale....

Sorry in a thoughtful mode tonight..

Excellent post.

You're spot on about the way that some individuals interpret criticism. I shook my head in disbelief when I read some of Zeina's comments. FFS, what do people honestly expect when they ask for comments, even in some cases adding, "whether good or bad", and then get uppity when someone does precisely that ?

Recently in my day job I got to work with a guy who had previously been a very senior member of an international consultancy. Needless to say the guy had a reputation as being extremely difficult to work with. In spite of this I accepted the assignment that was offered, and worked alongside him for 16 months. Was it fun ? Some of it yes, but for the most part no. And the reason ? Because for 16 months I got to see how I measured up against someone who had been there, done it, and done it well enough to start up his own company that was making money. And yep, that meant for the most part I had my work shredded on a daily basis, and dismissed as being poor and/or inferior.

When I tell people about this, they always say sympathetically, "God, you must have hated working for that wanker". My answer ? Nope, I not only enjoyed it (as much as possible), but I benefitted from it immensely. The standard of my work increased dramatically, so much so that my day job career is now looking rosier by the minute. And that is basically because I didn't run away with hurt feelings the first time someone said to me, "You know what Dom, my five year old could have produced better work that this ?"

It's for this same reason that on and off Trev and Morgan have been helping me with various aspects of my adult work. I don't just want to have my work shredded - I recognise that as a newcomer it is vital, and that unless my stuff can stand up to scrutiny from you chaps, I might as well pack up and go home.

And yes, I studied essay based subjects at college