The biggest difference between the business now

[Nickatilynx]

I'm not into goth chicks..in fact I want to punch them...but that is neither here nor there.

I just realised one of the things I do when I find an unfamilar affiliate program is go I look to see if they list who the people involved are, with a bio.

If they don't I don't join.

I look to see if there is a phone number contact and a physical address that looks like a real office.If there isn't one , I don't join.

My reasoning is it appears they are being run out of a back bedroom somewhere.

Would you trust someone who you have no info about , who seem to be undercapitalised to owe you 50k? I wouldn't.

Also I don't and will not join a Rev Share program.Most whales won't unless they know the person well.

If I see Rev share solely ( No paypaersignup option) I again suspect the program is undercapitalised.

Just some general thoughts..

[Osiris]

Originally Posted by Nickatilynx

I'm not into goth chicks..in fact I want to punch them...but that is neither here nor there.

I just realised one of the things I do when I find an unfamilar affiliate program is go I look to see if they list who the people involved are, with a bio.

If they don't I don't join.

I look to see if there is a phone number contact and a physical address that looks like a real office.If there isn't one , I don't join.

My reasoning is it appears they are being run out of a back bedroom somewhere.

Would you trust someone who you have no info about , who seem to be undercapitalised to owe you 50k? I wouldn't.

Also I don't and will not join a Rev Share program.Most whales won't unless they know the person well.

If I see Rev share solely ( No paypaersignup option) I again suspect the program is undercapitalised.

Just some general thoughts..

I had a reply to this but I hit the backspace button and it went back to the last page erasing every damn thing I posted. I'll get back to it later, I'm being rushed by a mad woman here. LOL

[Osiris]

Originally Posted by Nickatilynx

I'm not into goth chicks..in fact I want to punch them...but that is neither here nor there.

I just realised one of the things I do when I find an unfamilar affiliate program is go I look to see if they list who the people involved are, with a bio.

If they don't I don't join.

I look to see if there is a phone number contact and a physical address that looks like a real office.If there isn't one , I don't join.

My reasoning is it appears they are being run out of a back bedroom somewhere.

Would you trust someone who you have no info about , who seem to be undercapitalised to owe you 50k? I wouldn't.

Also I don't and will not join a Rev Share program.Most whales won't unless they know the person well.

If I see Rev share solely ( No paypaersignup option) I again suspect the program is undercapitalised.

Just some general thoughts..

Ok, back to what I was going to say, some of at least. I forgot everything I did have..



When you're right, you're right. We don't have an external office outside of the house, and we are way under capitalised. I believe the guy that is "supposed" to be our partner does it the same way and has a successful revshare program from what I know. Again, my definition of success and yours is probably entirely different.

Why don't whales like revshare? If the sites convert/retain members that's long term income. I thought that would be well accepted by people that like to make money, guess I was wrong?


Nowhere near what I had typed out yesterday, oh well. Maybe it'll come back to me as we continue.

[Nickatilynx]

Originally Posted by Osiris

Ok, back to what I was going to say, some of at least. I forgot everything I did have..



When you're right, you're right. We don't have an external office outside of the house, and we are way under capitalised. I believe the guy that is "supposed" to be our partner does it the same way and has a successful revshare program from what I know. Again, my definition of success and yours is probably entirely different.

Why don't whales like revshare? If the sites convert/retain members that's long term income. I thought that would be well accepted by people that like to make money, guess I was wrong?


Nowhere near what I had typed out yesterday, oh well. Maybe it'll come back to me as we continue.

Some might like revshare.

Personally I don't.

It means trusting the sites processor. ( not a risk I want to take)

It also means trusting the ability of the site operator to retain , update his sites etc etc. ( not a risk I want to take)

Instead of sending to Revshare programs basically back in the day I thought fuck it.

I'll build my own paysites.

That worked pretty well too.

I mean from a whales point of view...

so what does it take to build your own paysite with great content and a half decent design...4k? hmmm hire your own designer and build 15 different front ends all drawing from the same content pool....

[Osiris]

Originally Posted by Nickatilynx

Some might like revshare.

Personally I don't.

It means trusting the sites processor. ( not a risk I want to take)

It also means trusting the ability of the site operator to retain , update his sites etc etc. ( not a risk I want to take)

Instead of sending to Revshare programs basically back in the day I thought fuck it.

I'll build my own paysites.

That worked pretty well too.

I mean from a whales point of view...

so what does it take to build your own paysite with great content and a half decent design...4k? hmmm hire your own designer and build 15 different front ends all drawing from the same content pool....

Alright, I see what you're saying.


TheEnforcer, it's understandable in the example to take the 1 time payment of 10,000 vs. annual payments of 2k over a 5 year period, just an example. But it doesn't quite work like that with revshare. With revshare, as long as the site converts and you can build up and maintain 10k a month, that's 10k per month for as long as the site rebills.

[MorganGrayson]

I appreciated this thread. I already knew several ways of looking at a sponsor program, with regards to the TOS, contact information, availability and quality of marketing tools, etc., but I appreciated the glimpse into "undercapitilization," which was something that frankly, I hadn't considered.

The all important "yes, but will I get paid?" question.

Sending your traffic, especially if it's precious and you can't afford to make a mistake, to a sponsor who can't afford to set up a professional office does indeed sound a little iffy. Everyone has to start somewhere, true, but not with my traffic.

I liked the enumeration of the strikes against RevShare, Nick. Thank you.

[TheEnforcer]

Originally Posted by Osiris

Alright, I see what you're saying.


TheEnforcer, it's understandable in the example to take the 1 time payment of 10,000 vs. annual payments of 2k over a 5 year period, just an example. But it doesn't quite work like that with revshare. With revshare, as long as the site converts and you can build up and maintain 10k a month, that's 10k per month for as long as the site rebills.

Ok, lets take a look at that then. How many signups would it take to get to that 10K/month rebill status? I don't feel like doing the math but it would be a shitload of them to be sure and it would take quite a bit of time. While building that money up someone could be sending the same signups to a PPS and getting much more up front money with which they can put back into their business to grow it faster than they could than using a rev share. Don't gte me wrong, as I think it's a good idea to have at least one or two in the mix just in case, but PPS allows you to grow up your business at a much quicker pace than a rev share does.