Should Christmas be a National Holiday ??

[PornoDoggy]

I don't give a rat's ass about Christmas. I concluded about 35 years ago, when I still considered myself a Christian, that what gets celebrated in December had nothing to do with religion, unless your idea of the holy trinity is Adam Smith, Sam Walton, and Alan Greeenspan.

Originally Posted by voodooman

It's a holliday that has been around since before any of us, (except maybe Sarettah and PD) just like religion.

May the next individual you arrest have consumed two cases of beer, a dozen boiled eggs, a half-dozen pickled pigs feet, and recover from constipation in the back of your squad car.

[MorganGrayson]

Originally Posted by PornoDoggy

I don't give a rat's ass about Christmas. I concluded about 35 years ago, when I still considered myself a Christian, that what gets celebrated in December had nothing to do with religion, unless your idea of the holy trinity is Adam Smith, Sam Walton, and Alan Greeenspan.


May the next individual you arrest have consumed two cases of beer, a dozen boiled eggs, a half-dozen pickled pigs feet, and recover from constipation in the back of your squad car.

I'm not going to be quite as colorful as PD with this, but voodooman, you're using the "we've always done it this way" argument, which is never a good reason for doing anything.

PD...what gets celebrated in December is determined by the celebrant. Jews and Pagans (just to select two) have a long list of holidays they manage to celebrate without the government having to declare anything. All other religions do, too. Any current calendar will provide you with the dates of unpronouceable holidays that I suspect are the result of the current attempts not to bash Muslims.

Your argument, PD, regarding how Christmas is *actually* celebrated is what caused me to compare it to, and celebrate it as, a secular holiday.

The worst thing that has ever happened to me in my life happend at 1:30 pm on December 28, 1975. For a quarter of a century all Christmas meant to me was unbearable pain. I hated everything about it. My way of "celebrating" Christmas was to try and hold in the grief, which as I was later told by my youngest, I did quite unsuccessfully.

For some, it's a religious holiday, and my best to them. To most people, it's something else. What that something else is, is up to them.

[voodooman]

I think PD was more upset at my comment about him being older than
Xmas, not at my comment.

I could be wrong though.

[Almighty Colin]

Originally Posted by PornoDoggy

unless your idea of the holy trinity is Adam Smith, Sam Walton, and Alan Greeenspan.

You rang?

[PornoDoggy]

Originally Posted by Almighty Colin

You rang?

- somehow I knew that would get your attention.

[sarettah]

Hmmm. not getting anywhere with this whole thing so maybe it is time to ask the question in a different way...

How would you feel if instead of Christmas being a national holiday, Hannukah was made a national holiday. So, instead of saying Merry Christmas all over the place we would be saying Happy Hannukah and giving Hannukah gifts instead of Christmas gifts.

And when you (as a Christian, Muslim, Pagan, whatever) complained about it it was explained that it was just a name and didn't really mean anything anymore so why get your panties in a ruffle about it ?

[Peaches]

Originally Posted by sarettah

Hmmm. not getting anywhere with this whole thing so maybe it is time to ask the question in a different way...

How would you feel if instead of Christmas being a national holiday, Hannukah was made a national holiday. So, instead of saying Merry Christmas all over the place we would be saying Happy Hannukah and giving Hannukah gifts instead of Christmas gifts.

And when you (as a Christian, Muslim, Pagan, whatever) complained about it it was explained that it was just a name and didn't really mean anything anymore so why get your panties in a ruffle about it ?

I think that would be AWESOME!!! Hannukah is 8 days long

[Trev]

Originally Posted by Peaches

I think that would be AWESOME!!! Hannukah is 8 days long

I didn't know that, I'm good to rock with Hannukah as well

[Red]

Originally Posted by Peaches

I think that would be AWESOME!!! Hannukah is 8 days long

Yeah, but we only got one present a night and the first night was the only good present. The other nights were socks, underwear and other useful things.

[Peaches]

Originally Posted by Red

Yeah, but we only got one present a night and the first night was the only good present. The other nights were socks, underwear and other useful things.

Not much different than Christmas - 1 good gift, the rest useful stuff But Sare was talking about making it a National Holiday - 8 days off in Dec sounds superb to me

[voodooman]

Originally Posted by sarettah

Hmmm. not getting anywhere with this whole thing so maybe it is time to ask the question in a different way...

How would you feel if instead of Christmas being a national holiday, Hannukah was made a national holiday. So, instead of saying Merry Christmas all over the place we would be saying Happy Hannukah and giving Hannukah gifts instead of Christmas gifts.

And when you (as a Christian, Muslim, Pagan, whatever) complained about it it was explained that it was just a name and didn't really mean anything anymore so why get your panties in a ruffle about it ?

AGAIN, I say, Who Gives A Fuck?!?!?

[Peaches]

Originally Posted by voodooman

AGAIN, I say, Who Gives A Fuck?!?!?

Sarettah

[voodooman]

Originally Posted by Peaches

Sarettah

Actually, I don't think he cares THAT much, he just wants to
see what shit he can stir.