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[PornoDoggy]

Okay, I'll bite ...

Originally Posted by sarettah

Well, he is being beat up all over the place when all he's actually doing is what needs to be done but that noone else wants to admit needs to be done.

What exactly has he done that needed doing?

My list is simple. It has one item - he did invade Afghanistan.

That's proof that I'm an overly-generous liberal, though, because he didn't do the job right.

Other than that, his record, foreign or domestic, is the worst of any President in my lifetime. Ford, Carter and his own father accomplished more.

[sarettah]

Originally Posted by PornoDoggy

Okay, I'll bite ...

What exactly has he done that needed doing?

My list is simple. It has one item - he did invade Afghanistan.

That's proof that I'm an overly-generous liberal, though, because he didn't do the job right.

Other than that, his record, foreign or domestic, is the worst of any President in my lifetime. Ford, Carter and his own father accomplished more.

Well let's see. He cut taxes which is always a good thing to do. Put's more capital into circulation. Under him we have seen lower interest rates and more credit availability then in the 30 or 40 years prior to him.

Yes, he went into Afghanistan and then he proceeded to take an offensive against the rest of the middle eastern block and further he took it right into their territory.

Lololol....less effective than Ford or Carter, cmon PD even your liberal mind melt has not caused that much brain damage. And unlike Daddy, he didn't turn tail, he marched directly into satan's workshop (Baghdad) and kicked some fucking ass.

History will show him to be one of the most effective President's in the 2oth century. Before it's done, he will be more popular within the republican party than king god ronny ever was or will be.

[Dravyk]

You're smoking your hemp pants again, aint'cha?

[sarettah]

Originally Posted by Dravyk

You're smoking your hemp pants again, aint'cha?

Yaeh, I'm high. right.

Fucking libs want it both ways. They want to feel safe and protected and at the same time they want to have all the borders open for the rifraff to come in.

They want to make good money, they want to be able to be rich... Which means there better be low taxes.. But, at the same time, they want a super quality eductaion, free medical care, super good roads.

They don't want to kill motherfuckers that kill other people but they want to be able (at government expense of course) to kill a couple hundred thousand babies each year.

You want to see a lib become sane real quick. Have someone shoot their kid. Have their daughter come home pregnant and announce that she is gonna kill the baby. You will see libs jumping to the sane side of the death penalty issue and the abortion issue in a fucking second. And just so folks know, I am not Pro Life. I am Pro Sanity.

I get so tired of listening to the same liberal drivel over and over again. We finally have a sane administration, doing what needs to be done, when it needs to be done and all they can do is whine about how Clinton got treated. Give me a fucking break please.

[Dravyk]

Originally Posted by sarettah

Yaeh, I'm high. right.

Good. Just as long as we both agree.

[Trev]

Originally Posted by Dravyk

Good. Just as long as we both agree.

I've seen it spelt in quite a few ways, but this is a new one for me

Originally Posted by sarettah

Yaeh, I'm high.

[MorganGrayson]

Originally Posted by Trev

I've seen it spelt in quite a few ways, but this is a new one for me

That's the "too many pints of grog Olde English" spelling.


Really. It is.

[MorganGrayson]

Originally Posted by sarettah

Yaeh, I'm high. right.

Fucking libs want it both ways. They want to feel safe and protected and at the same time they want to have all the borders open for the rifraff to come in.

They want to make good money, they want to be able to be rich... Which means there better be low taxes.. But, at the same time, they want a super quality eductaion, free medical care, super good roads.

They don't want to kill motherfuckers that kill other people but they want to be able (at government expense of course) to kill a couple hundred thousand babies each year.

You want to see a lib become sane real quick. Have someone shoot their kid. Have their daughter come home pregnant and announce that she is gonna kill the baby. You will see libs jumping to the sane side of the death penalty issue and the abortion issue in a fucking second. And just so folks know, I am not Pro Life. I am Pro Sanity.

I get so tired of listening to the same liberal drivel over and over again. We finally have a sane administration, doing what needs to be done, when it needs to be done and all they can do is whine about how Clinton got treated. Give me a fucking break please.

Out of the darkness, one or two nuggets of gold glimmer.

Many "liberals" would turn on a dime with a couple of the scenarios you drew. I'm not one of them, but I never hung a tag on myself. I despise labels and there are very few that I will accept. Someone else's definition of a "liberal" certainly isn't one of them.

A drunk driver killed my sweet, gentle, beloved cousin Michael. My Uncle, normally the most mild mannered of men, a true gentle soul, was watched carefully during the trial of the 19 year old girl that was driving the car that threw my cousins body about a hundred feet. My father was actually afraid that my Uncle would try and get into court and kill her. People do change when things hit home. Thankfully, my Uncle changed back, thanks to the being we called "cousin Libby." (Libby was a dog my Aunt got him. Libby required walking, feeding, care and was so lovable she brought my Uncle back into the realm of the living.) Up until that car hit my cousin I doubt my Uncle had ever had a harmful thought in his life. (He was the only one in my military family that *didn't* go career military.)

My stomach flipped at the thought of one of my daughter's becoming pregnant and wanting an abortion, and I'm solidly pro-choice. However, that would be *my* grandchild up for discussion here. What I would have to do is swallow what I felt and shut the hell up, because it would not be my place to say a damned word other than the supportive ones I'd utter to my daughter. I'd grieve for my lost grandchild in private. (Yes, I know damned well I'd do that. I would want desperately to lay out as an option "have the baby and your father and I would raise it," knowing how stupid and impossible that would be. We're too old to begin raising an infant and I'm too sick. I'd keep my mouth shut, but I imagine she'd see it in my eyes.) This is all imagination anyway, because my children are all adults living out on their own. When they lived at home, it would have been my responsibility to do what was best for my *child,* whatever that may have been.

But, my stomach did flip, and my Uncle did flip out...so I do see the points you're making, sarettah.

[PornoDoggy]

Originally Posted by sarettah

Yaeh, I'm high. right.

Fucking libs want it both ways. They want to feel safe and protected and at the same time they want to have all the borders open for the rifraff to come in.

They want to make good money, they want to be able to be rich... Which means there better be low taxes.. But, at the same time, they want a super quality
eductaion, free medical care, super good roads.

They don't want to kill motherfuckers that kill other people but they want to be able (at government expense of course) to kill a couple hundred thousand babies each year.

You want to see a lib become sane real quick. Have someone shoot their kid. Have their daughter come home pregnant and announce that she is gonna kill the baby. You will see libs jumping to the sane side of the death penalty issue and the abortion issue in a fucking second. And just so folks know, I am not Pro Life. I am Pro Sanity.

I get so tired of listening to the same liberal drivel over and over again. We finally have a sane administration, doing what needs to be done, when it needs to be done and all they can do is whine about how Clinton got treated. Give me a fucking break please.

I'll take one of those breaks you are requesting, too. The fecal content of that post fouled the pixels required to cause it to appear on screen so badly I've had to clean, defag, and perform exorcism on my monitor, so I'm tired.

Your arguements about immigration are as worn out as "Dravyk's balls" jokes. They have proven to be false since the time of the Know-Nothings. The same arguements have been made in every generation since the 1840s, and America seems to have thrived in spite of the doom and gloom predictions that don't stray far from a Know-Nothing tract the 1840s or a Klan pamphlet from the 1920s. Tain't no different this time.

Lower or higher taxes is only one of many factors that go into accumulating wealth. The reason it is getting more difficult to accumulate wealth is that it is becoming more and more concentrated in fewer and fewer hands. The taxation and commerce policies of this administration are designed to further that end.

No one has shot my kid, but people close to me have been killed by violence. Capital punishment cannot give me what I want - ten minutes in a room, with the perp tied to a chair and me equipped only with a small, dull pen knife. I know for a fact that not everyone changes their side when faced with the choice issue up close and personal. I suspect that there are far more pro-life hypocrites who have fewer grandbabies than they oughtta.

Yes, he went into Afghanistan and then he proceeded to take an offensive against the rest of the middle eastern block and further he took it right into their territory.

Originally Posted by sarettah

Lololol....less effective than Ford or Carter, cmon PD even your liberal mind melt has not caused that much brain damage. And unlike Daddy, he didn't turn tail, he marched directly into satan's workshop (Baghdad) and kicked some fucking ass.

History will show him to be one of the most effective President's in the 2oth century. Before it's done, he will be more popular within the republican party than king god ronny ever was or will be.

Hmmmm ... there are still a couple of Americans killed a month in Afghanistan, large areas of the country are more under the control of the Taliban than the government, NGOs can't operate to deliver relief, and the poppy crop is having a record year. That's success, George Bush style.

After Afghanistan, recognizing that we were attacked by Saudi Arabians, he attacked - Iraq. 2,070 American servicemen have died so far - approximately 1,900 of them after he declared victory. To paraphrase an old song - "Fools Rush in Where Daddy Feared to Tread" (and Daddy had about 2 1/2 the troops that Jr. did).

And as far as the final paragraph - George Bush will go down in history with famous Republican Presidents. He will eclipse some of the records for hatred set by Hoover.