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Old 11-16-2005   #1
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Believeing in something, no matter how much solace it provides, does not make it true.

And I do not necessarilly prescribe to the notion that it is ok to believe what you want to believe.

See, now here is where you and I disagree. I think it is perfectly ok to believe in what you want to believe. I may not believe but I would never force that belief on others. I will happily dicuss/debate the issue if it is brought up by somebody but I won't actively go out and try and change their minds about the issue unless it's a topic they wish to actively debate/discuss. Even then it is more about stating my opinion rather than trying to change their mind. It's none of my damn business. Who am I to try and take away someones belief that they hold dear and helps them through the course of their life? Especially when the issue is one that basically can't be settled until one dies.

My wife and I used to discuss this issue constaantly as she believes in God stronger than anybody I have ever known. We both enjoyed, and actually still talk about the issue, talking about it quite a bit but I never actively tried to change her mind on the issue because it isn't my place to do so. I respect her greatly for her belief because I know of no one who tries to live up to that belief every day of their life more than she does.
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I may not believe but I would never force that belief on others.
Bullshit. You force your beliefs on the world around you in every decision you make.
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Bullshit. You force your beliefs on the world around you in every decision you make.
And as for you!!!!

You are happy enough , you old git...just mischievious LOL
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Bullshit. You force your beliefs on the world around you in every decision you make.
That's garbage, I've just decided to make a pot of coffee, the rest of the world was unaware until just now...
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That's garbage, I've just decided to make a pot of coffee, the rest of the world was unaware until just now...
Yep. I was totally unaware of Trev's coffee making.
Unless, of course, his desire to make a pot of coffee was triggered by *my* making a pot of coffee a bit ago.

I wonder what else I can make Trev do?
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That's garbage, I've just decided to make a pot of coffee, the rest of the world was unaware until just now...
You can cause damage without being aware you are causing damage.

You can become damaged without being aware that you are damaged.


"For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction" Sir Isaac Newton circa a whole long time ago
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You can cause damage without being aware you are causing damage.

You can become damaged without being aware that you are damaged.


"For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction" Sir Isaac Newton circa a whole long time ago
So you're applying a law of force to decision making... mkay then
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So you're applying a law of force to decision making... mkay then

Is a decision an "action" ?

If you make a decision (any decision) are there consequences ?

If you fail to make a decision (which is by default making a decision) are there consequences ?

Yes, the laws of motion can be applied to decisions.
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Is a decision an "action" ?

If you make a decision (any decision) are there consequences ?

If you fail to make a decision (which is by default making a decision) are there consequences ?

Yes, the laws of motion can be applied to decisions.
A decision is not an action.

Deciding I need coffee from the store does not get the coffee here.
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Is a decision an "action" ?

If you make a decision (any decision) are there consequences ?

If you fail to make a decision (which is by default making a decision) are there consequences ?

Yes, the laws of motion can be applied to decisions.
No they can't, the laws of force and motion are just that - the laws of force and motion.

You're statements answer themselves:

If you make a decision (any decision) are there consequences?

If you fail to make a decision (which is by default making a decision) are there consequences?

Decisions and actions have consequence... they aren't equal or opposite though.
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That's garbage, I've just decided to make a pot of coffee, the rest of the world was unaware until just now...

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What did the coffee think about that ?
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What did the coffee think about that ?
The coffee was a little upset at the lack of a press release announcing it's pending arrival.
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Bullshit. You force your beliefs on the world around you in every decision you make.
I'm talking about going out and actively trying to chnage minds and trying to convert everyone to my atheistic beliefs. It's really quite simple.
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