Is Everyone Anal These Days ??

[ReighlynnRaine]

Yay for Ford. But I'm biased.


Anyway... I think people should do what works for them.

When I first gave the adult web a go many years ago I was using a sponsor that didn't seem to pay anyone... but me. I was getting checks regularly.

I think a lot of this biz has to do with luck and timing.

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by ReighlynnRaine

Yay for Ford. But I'm biased.


Anyway... I think people should do what works for them.

When I first gave the adult web a go many years ago I was using a sponsor that didn't seem to pay anyone... but me. I was getting checks regularly.

I think a lot of this biz has to do with luck and timing.

So, have you moved on from freesites to paysites? I know we (whitcon) were free site webmasters till Nick decided to open up paysites. Funny how 50 sales a day became 300 to 500.

Were your experiences similliar?

[ReighlynnRaine]

Originally Posted by Anthony

So, have you moved on from freesites to paysites? I know we (whitcon) were free site webmasters till Nick decided to open up paysites. Funny how 50 sales a day became 300 to 500.

Were your experiences similliar?

Nope. I dabbled in freesites (I think I built 5 or so) and then I quit all together. I just recently decided to come back to the biz but so much has changed I feel like I'm all brand new.

[MorganGrayson]

Originally Posted by Anthony

So, have you moved on from freesites to paysites? I know we (whitcon) were free site webmasters till Nick decided to open up paysites. Funny how 50 sales a day became 300 to 500.

Were your experiences similliar?

Hey, why teach a newbie something when you can amuse yourself by bashing the fuck out of them?

I knew you when, kiddo. You made one helluva success for yourself in this business. I do imagine there were one or two people who gave you some advice along the way, though.

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by MorganGrayson

Hey, why teach a newbie something when you can amuse yourself by bashing the fuck out of them?

I knew you when, kiddo. You made one helluva success for yourself in this business. I do imagine there were one or two people who gave you some advice along the way, though.

Yep, I had three people who gave me advice and I ran away with it.

1. Nick - Traffic is king...
2. Serge - the surfer is commodity
3. BillPMB - Maximize your traffic, and increase your profits.

Everything else I read from the web. Just like I used to say back in the day, Learn, Implement, and Test. Everything I read, I did in real time. Like Mike Fold's earlier writings from Ynot on clicks and how to filter them. Like Colin's earlier version of "Building an empire" which led me to having the top 5 spot on Sextracker for my CJ's when it was worth something.

There was no fucking luck, I busted my ass, learned, and asked questions. I repaid that back in spades.

If asked by anyone here for help or advice on sites, I'd throw a lending hand. But the days of being the Newbie Board President are a half decade dead.

But going back to your earlier accusation... Bashing? My tounge in cheek ribbing? Nope, not I.

[MorganGrayson]

Originally Posted by Anthony

Yep, I had three people who gave me advice and I ran away with it.

1. Nick - Traffic is king...
2. Serge - the surfer is commodity
3. BillPMB - Maximize your traffic, and increase your profits.

Everything else I read from the web. Just like I used to say back in the day, Learn, Implement, and Test. Everything I read, I did in real time. Like Mike Fold's earlier writings from Ynot on clicks and how to filter them. Like Colin's earlier version of "Building an empire" which led me to having the top 5 spot on Sextracker for my CJ's when it was worth something.

There was no fucking luck, I busted my ass, learned, and asked questions. I repaid that back in spades.

If asked by anyone here for help or advice on sites, I'd throw a lending hand. But the days of being the Newbie Board President are a half decade dead.

But going back to your earlier accusation... Bashing? My tounge in cheek ribbing? Nope, not I.

I've got a splitting headache and you didn't use one of our many, many "this is tongue in cheek ribbing" smilies...which frankly, startled me.

To amplify on something I said earlier...yes, I knew Anthony "when." And he's telling the truth. (Actually, a shortened version of it, because I think the script would put its little virtual foot down if Ant listed *all* the work he did.) I listened to a lot of Anthony's ideas on the phone. I used to have one of those cool headset phones that I wore during the "talks." It had two batteries. Some of those talks managed to kill *both* of them.

A newbie today has to do the same. Ask questions, learn, research, experiment and work like a damned dog. It's almost horrifying how much work you have to do to make even a small success in this business. Old school webmasters don't respond well to remarks about "luck and timing," and I forgot that for a minute. It may *seem* like luck and timing, but that's only because you weren't standing behind the webmaster for the 24/7 he/she was on the computer working and learning and experimenting.

Newbies today have the same misinformation that the old newbies had. I recently pounded "the surfer is NOT your 'client'!!" into the head of one of our newbies until I thought both of us were going to have a stroke. "The surfer is a commodity" is a *great* way to put it, and I intend to swipe that line for frequent usage in the Oprano Newbie Lounge.

I owe you an apology, Anthony. I apologize. I was there for the "Newbie Board President" years and it was shitty of me to forget that. You rocked that gig for a long time.

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by MorganGrayson

I've got a splitting headache and you didn't use one of our many, many "this is tongue in cheek ribbing" smilies...which frankly, startled me.

To amplify on something I said earlier...yes, I knew Anthony "when." And he's telling the truth. (Actually, a shortened version of it, because I think the script would put its little virtual foot down if Ant listed *all* the work he did.) I listened to a lot of Anthony's ideas on the phone. I used to have one of those cool headset phones that I wore during the "talks." It had two batteries. Some of those talks managed to kill *both* of them.

A newbie today has to do the same. Ask questions, learn, research, experiment and work like a damned dog. It's almost horrifying how much work you have to do to make even a small success in this business. Old school webmasters don't respond well to remarks about "luck and timing," and I forgot that for a minute. It may *seem* like luck and timing, but that's only because you weren't standing behind the webmaster for the 24/7 he/she was on the computer working and learning and experimenting.

Newbies today have the same misinformation that the old newbies had. I recently pounded "the surfer is NOT your 'client'!!" into the head of one of our newbies until I thought both of us were going to have a stroke. "The surfer is a commodity" is a *great* way to put it, and I intend to swipe that line for frequent usage in the Oprano Newbie Lounge.

I owe you an apology, Anthony. I apologize. I was there for the "Newbie Board President" years and it was shitty of me to forget that. You rocked that gig for a long time.

None needed homegirl!

But to answer your question why I didn't use the sarcastic smilie, I have no idea what the code for it is, and I don't see the panel to pick it on here.

[MorganGrayson]

Originally Posted by Anthony

None needed homegirl!

But to answer your question why I didn't use the sarcastic smilie, I have no idea what the code for it is, and I don't see the panel to pick it on here.

*cuddle*

(I forgot to tell you...my regular UPS guy is the cutest Philappino! He's such a sweetie and has a thousand watt smile. He always offers to carry my packages into the house for me. I think of you every time I see him. *resigned sigh* I also muse "think of the fun I'd have if only I'd been born with a different personality." As it is, all I get to do is tell my husband "my cutie UPS guy was here today!" That's something, anyway. )

You've always called me "homegirl" and I've always liked it.

You should have a link [More] under the smilies to the right of the post box. Click on that and up will pop one of the largest smilie collections in the universe.

If you don't have one...TREV!!!! (That should set off crumpet's Scanner!)

[Nickatilynx]

Originally Posted by ReighlynnRaine

I think a lot of this biz has to do with luck and timing.

WHAT!!!!!?????

luck and timing?

Bullshit.

The people that made lots of money were more daring and smarter than the one s that didn't.

Knowadays any chancer of a moron reckons this is the way they can make bank....nope...

Same as any business , the top 1% make the REAL money