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Old 10-09-2005   #1
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Come on now Sykk lol ... Stretching what I said just a 'tad' aren't we?
How? Who's morals and boundaries of what should and shouldn't be written about should we use? Yours? Pat Robertson's? Who's? How is your free speech any more important than that of someone who's speech you don't agree with or are offended by?
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Old 10-10-2005   #2
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How? Who's morals and boundaries of what should and shouldn't be written about should we use? Yours? Pat Robertson's? Who's? How is your free speech any more important than that of someone who's speech you don't agree with or are offended by?
Sykk you insinuated I felt 'every erotic story written from now on only be about two people having sex out of love for each other and to procreate and make a baby'

I never said anything on my thoughts about what should or shouldn't be 'legal' to be written about aside from my statement as to how I felt regarding literary child porn.. I still feel it is seriously fucked up - and ALWAYS WILL!

That being said, I can see everyone's elses stance as well now..

Have you ever been pissed off cause someone hit on your wife or girlfriend with you sitting at the bar? Knee Jerk reaction, saw something that pissed me off and posted my thoughts as to that particular subject, never elaborated to the point of making anyone feel I was a prude. Atleast I hope not...
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Sykk you insinuated I felt 'every erotic story written from now on only be about two people having sex out of love for each other and to procreate and make a baby'

I never said anything on my thoughts about what should or shouldn't be 'legal' to be written about aside from my statement as to how I felt regarding literary child porn.. I still feel it is seriously fucked up - and ALWAYS WILL!

That being said, I can see everyone's elses stance as well now..

Have you ever been pissed off cause someone hit on your wife or girlfriend with you sitting at the bar? Knee Jerk reaction, saw something that pissed me off and posted my thoughts as to that particular subject, never elaborated to the point of making anyone feel I was a prude. Atleast I hope not...
nah, I didn't mean it that way, it's just when you start giving in on this sort of thing, it has a way of snowballing.

It's not that literary child porn doesn't offend me. As the father of 2 daughter and 2 sons, it does, but that doesn't mean it should be any less protected than me writing a fictional story about a couple hooking up for a quickie at work....

Besides, if trash like that is protected, then it shows how well protected other subjects are (and should be). Like I said, it's not always easy being a champion of free speech, especially when it's speech I don't agree with or I find distasteful.
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It's the same as when the staunch, conservative, "gray lady" herself, The New York Times joined amicus curiae (friend of the court) on the side of Larry Flynt versus the government. Talk about the two extremes of the publishing world! They did so because of precedent. Same applies here.
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Anytime you get into the freedom of speech issues you end up with very strange bedfellows
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Freedom of speech carries with it a responsibility. To fight to protect all speech, even that which makes you sick. Unpopular speech, like the stories supposedly on this website that got busted, are exactly the type of speech that our laws were written to protect.

You have your line of what is acceptable, I have mine. The very moment either of us tries to impose our line on anyone else we are beginning the process of losing freedom of speech. Same goes if we allow anyone else to impose their line.

We either have freedom to speak, think and write whatever we please, or we do not. There is no middle ground.
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It's the same as when the staunch, conservative, "gray lady" herself, The New York Times joined amicus curiae (friend of the court) on the side of Larry Flynt versus the government. Talk about the two extremes of the publishing world! They did so because of precedent. Same applies here.
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