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[RyanLanane]

Great points and I agree, I guess just the initial way it hit me didn't make me think about the larger picture. I guess there are still, to this day, costs for the freedoms we have. Can't have your cake and eat it to, as they say..

While nazi stuff is very offensive to me it doesnt make me jump out of my skin like I did about the child porn issue - however I am very sure that it is just as, if not much more offensive to a huge portion of this world and America. Many Americans would jump out at that the way I did Child Porn ...

BTW, I'm Christian - the worst one of all.. CATHOLIC! lol ... Wicca doesn't bother me though, sort of suprised christianity bothers you so much - I don't have much understanding when it comes to other religions though.

It just irritates the living shit out of me though

[MorganGrayson]

Ryan...oh, please, you've misunderstood. What I call "christianity," with a "small c," I adore. Feed the hungry, comfort the sick...all the things that Christ said to do. (It's remarkably like Wicca. We have the "be nice" clause, too.)

It's "Christianity" with a "Capital C" that bugs the hell out of me. All of these people who think theirs is the "one true god," that everyone else is wrong, that god speaks directly to them, and everybody who doesn't believe what they do should go to prison, burn in hell or whatever.

In Wicca, we are taught to respect all Paths. And, I try. I really do. But people who use religion as a weapon against others make it very, very difficult to respect.

I was raised Roman Catholic - in the "one true church." I didn't fit. I didn't find a place where I fit until a few years ago...and it was Wicca. Here, I fit. There's a lot I don't understand...but I didn't ever understand the Holy Trinity, either. Over their, I was confused and miserable. Over here, I'm confused and happy. I think of it as a nice upgrade.

I think Jesus Christ is totally groovy, and that is said with a degree of profound respect that the "Capital Cs" would never understand.

I can not and will not worship a god that requires "quaking and fear." Not when there's a Goddess who says "c'mere....ya look like ya need a hug."

[PornoDoggy]

Originally Posted by RyanLanane

Great points and I agree, I guess just the initial way it hit me didn't make me think about the larger picture. I guess there are still, to this day, costs for the freedoms we have. Can't have your cake and eat it to, as they say..

While nazi stuff is very offensive to me it doesnt make me jump out of my skin like I did about the child porn issue - however I am very sure that it is just as, if not much more offensive to a huge portion of this world and America. Many Americans would jump out at that the way I did Child Porn ...

BTW, I'm Christian - the worst one of all.. CATHOLIC! lol ... Wicca doesn't bother me though, sort of suprised christianity bothers you so much - I don't have much understanding when it comes to other religions though.

It just irritates the living shit out of me though

Oh, so you are Catholic. That explains it - according to some, including many of the Klan-style pseudo-humans, you're not really an American anyway.

[RyanLanane]

Originally Posted by PornoDoggy

Oh, so you are Catholic. That explains it - according to some, including many of the Klan-style pseudo-humans, you're not really an American anyway.

Just cause I'm Catholic does not mean I agree with everything about the religion, not that I give a damn what Nazis think. I believe there is a God, I believe that Jesus walked the earth, not so sure about whether he will again or not but hey it's possible.. I don't fall into the whole apocolypse thing as it is more of what Morgan is talking about, instilling fear. I do believe in heaven and hell.

I do not agree with MANY (understatement) of the beliefs of Catholicism, such as no pre-marital sex or use of birth control as my two major peeves. I use protection for a reason, I am not in a position in my life to have another Child - doing so would be extremely irresponsible.

After being very lucky as a young man I am just now gaining respect for alot of things in life as I experience more swings than 99.99% of the people who ever read this will in their lives. I also make way to many mistakes but I am learning from them... I have not learned everything I need to though, and have a longgggg way to go.

I have spoken with my Mom, who raised me Catholic, about my feelings regarding my religion and she is in the same boat as me - I think A TON of Catholics are. We don't believe in the harsh guidelines they push and I don't think I need to GO TO CHURCH and donate money to pray or worship god, period. She went through a lot when my Step Dad divorced her for another women, she went to a lot of retreats and took great personal inventory of herself - I truly admire her for the person she is.. She explained to me that I don't need to go to a Church to worship god.. I can sit in front of a tree and pray - all the same to god.

That being said, I want my daughter to be baptised for some reason as I want her to have a god - and god forbid if anything ever happened to her I would just feel better about it if she was baptised. I don't understand, given what I just said, why I feel this way.. It might actually be the fear you mentioned Morgan - but I do and there is no way in HELL the Catholic church will baptise (wrong word first post!) the daughter of an unwed (to this day) mother...

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Originally Posted by RyanLanane

While nazi stuff is very offensive to me it doesnt make me jump out of my skin like I did about the child porn issue - however I am very sure that it is just as, if not much more offensive to a huge portion of this world and America. Many Americans would jump out at that the way I did Child Porn ...

Nazi stuf makes my skin crawl just as much as cp. And as much as I would love to see them all strung up, the bottom line is what they can do to one, they can do to all, so I'm not willing to give up my freedom of speech to stiffle any group.