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Old 09-30-2005   #1
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Serge has it spot on from my personal views .. start small and learn whatever you can from an industry mover and shaker .. never stop learning ..
Just out of curiosity ... and knowing some folks here and elsewhere ...

a) Would you as a mover and shaker still give advice out? I'd think many wouldn't anymore, and haven't for a long time.

And b) Why would you? What would you get in return?

Again, I think the advice is good. But is the advice feasible???
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Just out of curiosity ... and knowing some folks here and elsewhere ...

a) Would you as a mover and shaker still give advice out? I'd think many wouldn't anymore, and haven't for a long time.

And b) Why would you? What would you get in return?

Again, I think the advice is good. But is the advice feasible???
I have had a rant on this before....

Remember all the help on CONDOM to newbies?

I gave a lot of help but also received a lot of help in the early days. I mentioned in a different thread a few of the people that took the time to teach me some tricks.

And actually I still learn things from friends everyday.

But as for handing out general info?

Like the old CONDOM workshops?

I think , no.

I toyed with bringing it back on Oprano but decided against it.

When we did it on CONDOM/Netpond , back in the day , we had experts in their own field making bank from it willing to give advice.

Now , no one who REALLY knows the field would give away the info we were giving away then.

So I'd be left with "playas" telling part the story to forwqard there own ends. Or people teaching who had never made a red cent from it. LOL.

And I have shuddered and watched other "experts" shudder over information given that is supposedly the right way to do something which you KNOW , don't think , but KNOW will not work.
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Would you as a mover and shaker still give advice out? I'd think many wouldn't anymore, and haven't for a long time.
I've always been quite closed mouthed about what I do and the tricks I know. I've always given very basic advice, but never told all. I never understood why someone would tell their special tricks to newbies, you're just teaching your competition! Look at how many guys that were in the "second wave" took what they learnt, and kicked their "mentors" asses. Just never made sense to me.
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I've always been quite closed mouthed about what I do and the tricks I know. I've always given very basic advice, but never told all. I never understood why someone would tell their special tricks to newbies, you're just teaching your competition! Look at how many guys that were in the "second wave" took what they learnt, and kicked their "mentors" asses. Just never made sense to me.
Oh I hear ya, Danny!

Well I don't think anyone is stupid to give everything out. (As said, I'm sure right now it would be closer to getting water out of a rock). But if someone gives a person 90%, holds back the important 10% ... then it's up to the student ... if they can't figure out the last part after that long, they don't have it in them.

Still, again as you said, even if they figure out the 10% ... they can surpass the mentor. And end up screwing him/her up good.
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