Carrie...you ignorant slut.

[mikeyddddd]

Originally Posted by Weg Cory

Funny thing, I asked Billy on the phone what he thought of the images of that cop holding DVDs. He said, "How does everyone know he didn't just take them from a looter?"

Ask him about the female officers shopping for shoes.

[Weg Cory]

Originally Posted by mikeyddddd

Ask him about the female officers shopping for shoes.

This is important?

What were they supposed to wear?

It was a flood. They need shoes. They took extra? I don't care. I try to stray away from the path of the righteous.

[Dravyk]

Not sure about this whole female officer shoe shopping/looting thing ....

So I have one question that will solve it all (well the answer to it will)

Were they taking sneaks and boots? Or strapless shoes with sequences and stiletto heels?

[Weg Cory]

Originally Posted by Dravyk

Not sure about this whole female officer shoe shopping/looting thing ....

So I have one question that will solve it all (well the answer to it will)

Were they taking sneaks and boots? Or strapless shoes with sequences and stiletto heels?

Answering this is the second line of interogation. However, I am still at the first line which is "who gives a damn about it."

Look at everything going on. So worst case scenario is that NOPD was left with no help, lost their lives, and got a few pairs of free shoes.

I am ok with the shoes.

[Dravyk]

Originally Posted by Weg Cory

Answering this is the second line of interogation. However, I am still at the first line which is "who gives a damn about it."

Look at everything going on. So worst case scenario is that NOPD was left with no help, lost their lives, and got a few pairs of free shoes.

I am ok with the shoes.

I overall agree with you, Cory.

It was when you yourself started to assume maybe they needed the shoes and felt you needed to say that ... and became that was IMHO just as bad as the person assuming maybe they had looted them, well that was when I put my two cents in. Since no one got my undertone about assumptions ... well, nevermind, let's just skip it.

Again, agreed, this particular conversation is not very important in terms of the big picture.

[Carrie]

Well apparently the "big picture" here is that it's okay to loot, pillage, steal... because they can't plug in the TVs and use them anyway, so who cares?

Damn, I think the folks who were trying to get out of the city and were held up at roadblocks by gangs with guns taking all of their cash, jewelry, and worthful belongings would care... but I'm just an idiot.

I guess the folks who are still holed up in their homes trying to survive on what little food they have left would care when those looters come busting through the door stealing everything they have... but I'm just an idiot.

I guess the folks who could have been saved from drowning by police officers would care if they knew those officers were busy stocking up on shoes at the local Wal-Mart... but I'm just an idiot.

And I just LOVE how the person proclaiming me to be an idiot for pointing these things out keeps trying to tell us all that we'd do the exact same thing... apparently including the raping and murdering.

I'm sorry... if I was in that situation, forcing sex on someone would be the last fucking thing on my mind. I honestly believe that I could be shoved in a bunker with Vick, Nick, MikeAI, Sare, and even hornier-than-god Serge, and still not have to worry about any of them gang-raping me or my kids. We might come down to it when the food ran low, but there would be no raping going on.
But then again... I'm just an idiot.

(Where the fuck is that rolling eyes smiley?)

[XxXotic]

Originally Posted by Carrie

And I just LOVE how the person proclaiming me to be an idiot for pointing these things out keeps trying to tell us all that we'd do the exact same thing... apparently including the raping and murdering.

You ARE an idiot. Don't be mad because I'm stating the obvious. I can compile a list of my points that you're apparantly too stupid to comprehend. I NEVER said anyone would rape, murder, or even loot. what I DID say, was that you CANNOT say you would or would not do those things in that situation.

Aparrantly you're also either too ignorant or again, too stupid to realize in a situation as such, "rational thinking" takes a back seat to the basic instinct to survive. Now I'm sure, as you've done so eloquently already, you will decide to try to put words in my mouth by saying i'm now advocating that raping and robbing people are survival instincts, so allow me to nip it in the bud. I'm not. In ANY crisis situation of this magnitude there will ALWAYS be predatory people looking to take advantage of it. This crisis being in New Orleans (not known as a crime-free city anyway) makes the situation potentially more explosive then say, Hartford Connecticut. It's bound to happen though very unfortunate

If you knew ANYTHING about New Orleans, you'd know the 9th ward is one of the most ghetto areas of NOLA, if not the worst ghetto in the city, probably in the entire southeast region as well. Magnolia projects (the nolia), Calliope projects... where the majority of New Orleans rappers come out of (the shit they rap about really does go on down here) aren't exactly resort destinations and already have an absurdly high crime rate to begin with. Like I said, this shit would STILL be going on if Katrina didn't hit. Just the fact that 5,000 news organzations are now focused on the city people get to see what most of New Orleans is ACTUALLY like. 90% of the world has only ever seen the French Quarter. The FQ comprises maybe 5% of the city, the rest is pretty fuckin shitty. You're apprantly one of those people.

So again, so we're clear. I'm NOT condoning anything they're doing, I'm not excusing it nor am I defending it. I'm just saying, until your ignorant ass is stuck on a roof for what will be 7 days now with no food or water, in 105° + degree heat, surrounded by dead, floating bodies, human waste and all types of bacteria in 6' of water, you CANNOT say you wouldn't do the same thing.

You can't. PERIOD You may like to THINK you wouldn't, but you most assuredly cannot say for certain you wouldn't. Sorry

[MorganGrayson]

I've been sitting here debating whether or not I even want to get involved in the post. I guess I'll find out when and if I see it in the thread.

#1. Would I kill to protect my family?
Yes. In less than a heartbeat.

#2. Would I steal food, water, medicine and other supplies from a store or abandoned "something" for my family?
Yes. I would also steal them for my "Tribe." (I read a great article this morning about strangers in the Quarter banding together to form "Tribes" to survive, with shared tasks and all sorts of great things that make you have faith in people again.) If my home was left standing, I'd take in people. Even if I had no home, forming a "Tribe" is a very sensible way to deal with a crisis.

#3. (The difficult one.) Would I steal food *from* other people for my family?
Sitting here in my air conditioned living room, tapping on my computer, I want to say "no." I really want to. However, there happens to be a photograph of my oldest daughter framed and sitting on my computer. Whose life do I pick...a stranger's...or hers? I pick hers.

#4. Would I contribute to a "general fund"?
No. San Diego County already got the shaft over that one a couple of years ago during the fires. Lives were lost, homes, neighborhoods and one entire small town burned to the ground. People were encouraged to donate to the Red Cross and donate they did...only to find out later that their donations went into the "general fund" because they weren't specified on the check as being for the Fire Victims. So the money intended to go to their neighbors went into *all* work the Red Cross did...even if it was on the other side of the world. The head of the Red Cross lost her job and there was some sort of scandal. I'll never give to a "general fund" again, nor am I as eager to donate to "charities" as I once was - not without knowing exactly how much of the money actually goes to where it was intended to go and how much is eaten by "administrative costs." (I dontated to Chris and Red's fund for WT and Osiris. I know *exactly* where *all* the money is going.)

#5. How much would I personally "de-evolve" in a situation like the one in NO?
I'm usually pretty good in a crisis but I have no idea what I'd become in that *big* a crisis. I know what the historical precedents are, though. I know to what other perfectly nice, perfectly sane people have been reduced in horrific conditions. I don't think I'm any better than they are. To sit here in my comfortable living room and say that I am would be highly presumptive.

[Sin]

Originally Posted by MorganGrayson

I've been sitting here debating whether or not I even want to get involved in the post. I guess I'll find out when and if I see it in the thread.

#1. Would I kill to protect my family?
Yes. In less than a heartbeat.

#2. Would I steal food, water, medicine and other supplies from a store or abandoned "something" for my family?
Yes. I would also steal them for my "Tribe." (I read a great article this morning about strangers in the Quarter banding together to form "Tribes" to survive, with shared tasks and all sorts of great things that make you have faith in people again.) If my home was left standing, I'd take in people. Even if I had no home, forming a "Tribe" is a very sensible way to deal with a crisis.

#3. (The difficult one.) Would I steal food *from* other people for my family?
Sitting here in my air conditioned living room, tapping on my computer, I want to say "no." I really want to. However, there happens to be a photograph of my oldest daughter framed and sitting on my computer. Whose life do I pick...a stranger's...or hers? I pick hers.

#4. Would I contribute to a "general fund"?
No. San Diego County already got the shaft over that one a couple of years ago during the fires. Lives were lost, homes, neighborhoods and one entire small town burned to the ground. People were encouraged to donate to the Red Cross and donate they did...only to find out later that their donations went into the "general fund" because they weren't specified on the check as being for the Fire Victims. So the money intended to go to their neighbors went into *all* work the Red Cross did...even if it was on the other side of the world. The head of the Red Cross lost her job and there was some sort of scandal. I'll never give to a "general fund" again, nor am I as eager to donate to "charities" as I once was - not without knowing exactly how much of the money actually goes to where it was intended to go and how much is eaten by "administrative costs." (I dontated to Chris and Red's fund for WT and Osiris. I know *exactly* where *all* the money is going.)

#5. How much would I personally "de-evolve" in a situation like the one in NO?
I'm usually pretty good in a crisis but I have no idea what I'd become in that *big* a crisis. I know what the historical precedents are, though. I know to what other perfectly nice, perfectly sane people have been reduced in horrific conditions. I don't think I'm any better than they are. To sit here in my comfortable living room and say that I am would be highly presumptive.

I think I love you!

[Nickatilynx]

Originally Posted by MorganGrayson

I've been sitting here debating whether or not I even want to get involved in the post. I guess I'll find out when and if I see it in the thread.

#1. Would I kill to protect my family?
Yes. In less than a heartbeat.

#2. Would I steal food, water, medicine and other supplies from a store or abandoned "something" for my family?
Yes. I would also steal them for my "Tribe." (I read a great article this morning about strangers in the Quarter banding together to form "Tribes" to survive, with shared tasks and all sorts of great things that make you have faith in people again.) If my home was left standing, I'd take in people. Even if I had no home, forming a "Tribe" is a very sensible way to deal with a crisis.

#3. (The difficult one.) Would I steal food *from* other people for my family?
Sitting here in my air conditioned living room, tapping on my computer, I want to say "no." I really want to. However, there happens to be a photograph of my oldest daughter framed and sitting on my computer. Whose life do I pick...a stranger's...or hers? I pick hers.

#4. Would I contribute to a "general fund"?
No. San Diego County already got the shaft over that one a couple of years ago during the fires. Lives were lost, homes, neighborhoods and one entire small town burned to the ground. People were encouraged to donate to the Red Cross and donate they did...only to find out later that their donations went into the "general fund" because they weren't specified on the check as being for the Fire Victims. So the money intended to go to their neighbors went into *all* work the Red Cross did...even if it was on the other side of the world. The head of the Red Cross lost her job and there was some sort of scandal. I'll never give to a "general fund" again, nor am I as eager to donate to "charities" as I once was - not without knowing exactly how much of the money actually goes to where it was intended to go and how much is eaten by "administrative costs." (I dontated to Chris and Red's fund for WT and Osiris. I know *exactly* where *all* the money is going.)

#5. How much would I personally "de-evolve" in a situation like the one in NO?
I'm usually pretty good in a crisis but I have no idea what I'd become in that *big* a crisis. I know what the historical precedents are, though. I know to what other perfectly nice, perfectly sane people have been reduced in horrific conditions. I don't think I'm any better than they are. To sit here in my comfortable living room and say that I am would be highly presumptive.

Hurricane or not..

What if you'd do 3 out of 5 just for the hell of it ?

Or cause you can?

;-)))