CIA Higher Up...we let bin laden get away

[Mike AI]

I have no doubt that Bin Laden was in Tora Bora. Bush definately dropped the ball. We should have committed US troops to handle the job.

I beleive part of the reason is Bush bcame ( and still is) gun shy. After being beat on by liberals, media, and anti-war types Bush ( Rumsfiled) do not want to commit us troops into combat where there would be huge US deaths. ( WWII type casualties - the realit is less then 2k deaths in Iraq after 2 years is statisticly nothing)

If we lost 2,000 troops in one week, the liberals and media would be flipping out.

Bush is doing things half assed. It is wel known Syria and Iran are helping our enemies in Iraq. We should make it clear to them if they continue they will be punished. Once thy do not stop, we need to make them feel the pain of helping out enemies. This does not have to be invasion, it could be economic pressure, and some cruise missles.

We cannot win a war by creating abritrary rules and boundaries. We should be going all out. Our troops deserve it.

[NickPapageorgio]

Originally Posted by Mike AI

If we lost 2,000 troops in one week, the liberals and media would be flipping out.

Right on, cause as we all know, the moms and dads that are right wing, and have kids in Iraq or Afghanistan, wouldn't give a fuck... [/sarcasm]

C'mon Mike, you can't lay everything at the feet of liberals every time. This is one of those times...

Bush...gunshy because of the beating liberals gave him...lmao...damn I needed that this morning!!!

[PornoDoggy]

Originally Posted by NickPapageorgio

C'mon Mike, you can't lay everything at the feet of liberals every time. This is one of those times...

You underestimate him.

[el pres]

Originally Posted by Mike AI

Bush is doing things half assed. It is wel known Syria and Iran are helping our enemies in Iraq. We should make it clear to them if they continue they will be punished. Once thy do not stop, we need to make them feel the pain of helping out enemies. This does not have to be invasion, it could be economic pressure, and some cruise missles.

**** what happen with the quote not showing properly****

Unless the US could provide serious proof, it would be something they did unilaterally, not even the UK would back you on that one.

If you did end up fighting a ground war, have you got the troops?
Irans got a massive army.

Also the risk of sending oil prices sky high, holds you back.

[Nickatilynx]

Originally Posted by el pres

**** what happen with the quote not showing properly****

Unless the US could provide serious proof, it would be something they did unilaterally, not even the UK would back you on that one.

If you did end up fighting a ground war, have you got the troops?
Irans got a massive army.

Also the risk of sending oil prices sky high, holds you back.

sigh...fixed it for you...

needed the "/"..

fucking newbs...


;-))

[Rolo]

Originally Posted by el pres

Irans got a massive army.

Also the risk of sending oil prices sky high, holds you back.

An iranian army filled with young people who do not want to die, so the mullahs can stay in power... invading Iran would not take longer than Iraq. Ofcourse occupying 3 countries at the same time would be too much, but when Iraqies are ready to do their own house cleaning, then resources would be ready for the next terrorist nest.

As for the oil price - a swift war in Iran or Syria will not harm the price of oil, it would probably lower the price, since the regional stability would be increased.

[Mike AI]

Originally Posted by Rolo

An iranian army filled with young people who do not want to die, so the mullahs can stay in power... invading Iran would not take longer than Iraq. Ofcourse occupying 3 countries at the same time would be too much, but when Iraqies are ready to do their own house cleaning, then resources would be ready for the next terrorist nest.

As for the oil price - a swift war in Iran or Syria will not harm the price of oil, it would probably lower the price, since the regional stability would be increased.

El Pres, I did not say INVADE and OCCUPY Iran. Only punish them if they continue to support the terrorists in Iraq. We could force an oil embargo with our navy, and destroy pipelines going to Turkey, etc. This would put a big dent in their income.

We could create "safe zones" in Iran like we did in Iraq to protect the Kurds and the Shia's for years.

There are many ways to effect countries behavior besides all out war.

The worst crime is not doing anything and accepting it.

[grimm]

Originally Posted by Mike AI

El Pres, I did not say INVADE and OCCUPY Iran. Only punish them if they continue to support the terrorists in Iraq. We could force an oil embargo with our navy, and destroy pipelines going to Turkey, etc. This would put a big dent in their income.

We could create "safe zones" in Iran like we did in Iraq to protect the Kurds and the Shia's for years.

There are many ways to effect countries behavior besides all out war.

The worst crime is not doing anything and accepting it.

Meanwhile, back at the raqnhc, iran resumes nuclear program


http://aolsvc.news.aol.com/news/arti...08091109990003

[grimm]

Originally Posted by Rolo

An iranian army filled with young people who do not want to die, so the mullahs can stay in power... invading Iran would not take longer than Iraq. Ofcourse occupying 3 countries at the same time would be too much, but when Iraqies are ready to do their own house cleaning, then resources would be ready for the next terrorist nest.

As for the oil price - a swift war in Iran or Syria will not harm the price of oil, it would probably lower the price, since the regional stability would be increased.

as oil hits 64 bucks a barrel

http://finance.myway.com/ht/nw/bus/2...l08675543.html

[Mike AI]

Originally Posted by grimm

as oil hits 64 bucks a barrel

http://finance.myway.com/ht/nw/bus/2...l08675543.html

Grimm you should be making money off of this!

I gave you some stocks to make money on!!

Hell I gave http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=hal back when it was $50 to Old Jeff!!

[grimm]

Originally Posted by Mike AI

Grimm you should be making money off of this!

I gave you some stocks to make money on!!

Hell I gave http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=hal back when it was $50 to Old Jeff!!

XOM is up a healthy 2 % today.

bought some HAL yesterday
im not worried about stocks. i just hate paying at the pump

[Mike AI]

Originally Posted by grimm

XOM is up a healthy 2 % today.

bought some HAL yesterday
im not worried about stocks. i just hate paying at the pump

yeah but you can make enough with these stocks to pay at the pump with Noah's Hummer!!

[OldJeff]

Originally Posted by Mike AI

Grimm you should be making money off of this!

I gave you some stocks to make money on!!

Hell I gave http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=hal back when it was $50 to Old Jeff!!

And I should have fucking listened too

[Rolo]

Originally Posted by OldJeff

And I should have fucking listened too

I took Wig´s advice last year - thank you Wig, I feel much better now

Originally Posted by Wig

Rolo, Just a buy a shitload of oil calls and get it over with already. ;-))

http://oprano.com/msgboard/showthrea...&highlight=oil

[Rolo]

Originally Posted by grimm

as oil hits 64 bucks a barrel

2% rise in oil price due to a terror warning is nothing, when compared with the increase the last 2 years, which is mostly due to demand and not terror, war etc.

The world used more energy last year, than the year before, and it will use more energy than ever this year. Terrorists are not stopping the worlds oil pumps - we are sucking them dry... big difference ;-))