They have pussified basic training

[TheEnforcer]

This is certainly an interesting discussion to be sure. Put it this way..... when I went through basic in the late 80's I got a physical episode that brought me into line quickly in receiving with the DI's there (receiving DI's were different than your long term training DI's inh terms of agressiveness) and there were other times where little things that a regular DI did, stepping on your fingers during bending and thrusting, pulling on chest hairs for a reaction, etc. etc. that today wouldn't be tolerated today that I didn't think a second about when they happened as they were just a part of boot camp. A movie like Full Metal Jacket was accurate other than, for the most part the physical stuff wasn't as commonplace as in the movie, but it was there in the receiving part of boot camp and in a lesser form, as described above as well. The words by the DI's weren't a whole lot different. All I can say is this. There isn't ANYBODY I have met in my life to this date who will get more respect from me than any DI I encountered during boot camp in the Marine Corps.


but it's not just the treatment from DI's thta bugs me it's stuff like taking mount mother fucker out of the training regimen. That was a tough phase of boot camp and a tough as hell march with a full pack.