They have pussified basic training

[Evil Chris]

I have heard similar things happening in the Canadian military. Coed barracks (more like condos) now, and just a whole new set of "can't do this to them" rules now.

Recruits appear to have rights they never used to have. I'd agree that physical contact (ie. punching, or hitting with pace sticks) is wrong. However, I did my basic training in Cornwallis, Nova Scotia back in 1983, and it was fucking rough. Example... I doubt that standing the troops outside in the freezing rain (in work-dress uniform) for over an hour would be acceptable in this day and age.

Basic was almost as rough as the combat leadership training I did in 1993. Toughest shit I have ever been through both mentally and physically in my entire life.

[Bhelliom]

Originally Posted by Evil Chris

I have heard similar things happening in the Canadian military. Coed barracks (more like condos) now, and just a whole new set of "can't do this to them" rules now.

Recruits appear to have rights they never used to have. I'd agree that physical contact (ie. punching, or hitting with pace sticks) is wrong. However, I did my basic training in Cornwallis, Nova Scotia back in 1983, and it was fucking rough. Example... I doubt that standing the troops outside in the freezing rain (in work-dress uniform) for over an hour would be acceptable in this day and age.

Basic was almost as rough as the combat leadership training I did in 1993. Toughest shit I have ever been through both mentally and physically in my entire life.

Chris I was referring to the canadian army as i'm canadian. However, I joined in 98 and was in until '02. I can say for a fact that when i tell stories of what I did in the army to new recruits they tell me they don't do that anymore. so its definitely getting easier.

As for the Co-ed barracks, that part is also true, and has led to many stories coming to me (from both the men and women) of well, good and bad things.

[sextoyking]

The Drill Sgt's and others in the chain got what they deserved.

They haven't "allowed" physical abuse of trainees in so many years. When I went through basic / ait in 1986 (Ft. Sill, Ok), I don't remember any pvt. getting touched, hit, etc. Worst you would ever get treated is a few bad names here and there.