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Old 06-28-2005   #19
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Originally posted by Rolo@Jun 28 2005, 03:15 PM
Its still winnable - there is political progress in Iraq with a new constitution in August/September, but ofcourse there is no guarantee that it will get broad support. However every time a new major political turn point is there, then its possible to make compromises, which played correctly, will divide the opposition into smaller and smaller groups - its call democracy, and its seldom pretty in the beginning (just think of the wars and revolutions we have seen in the western world).

Yes, Bush missed alot of things when dealing with Iraq after the war, however the recent change in tone might be the start of a more flexible strategy. Bush will be in Europe next week for the G-8 meeting, and later that week he will visit and have talks with some of the european allies who have trops in Iraq....
i do not believe this anymore. different region, different mentality. 3 major ethnic groups all support a state as long as its dominated by their group. they are obviously ready to fight and die for this.

Iraq will survive only with the creation of a brutal, secret police and police state imho. one that snatches suspected terrorists out of their beds at night and shoots them behind the same house. one thing i learned in Russia is that it can take many decades to change the mentality of a people that was shaped over only many decades.
iraqi's want "freedom" but their version of "freedom" is defined by which ethnic group is in charge... not by the existence or non-existence of a peice of paper declaring certain freedoms to exist.

Saddam will can only be replaced by another Saddam.

i believe its possible this conflict that will not end in my lifetime.
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