Justifiable War?

[grimm]

Originally posted by Nickatilynx@May 30 2005, 01:28 PM
I think that is antiquated.

In order for us to survive we will have to learn to live together , peacefully and on a global level.

If not we will all go the way of the dodo.

hippy

idealism is nice, thats why its called "ideal". broad stroke statements like that are easy to spit out a dozen a minute, but really mean nothing when applied to the real world.

to apply broad stroak qualification of wars is inherently bad logic. you are judging them in hindsight, after all, so it is easy to sound byte the validity of a war effort. The conflict and future conflicts in the middle east will be judged the day it is all said and done, in hindsight. Preemtive action, in business and in war, is sometimes the best strategy. anyone who can look at the middle east over the last 50 years cannot honestly say this wasn't coming down the barrel since day 1. peace efforts were exhausted long ago, strategic positioning for the coming decades is necessary, though not pretty. The situation has gone downhill at at an ever increasing pace, the next 5 decades would be exactly the same.

As for people in the middle east hating the US. it is not possible for them to hate us more now. they have hated the US since the formation of israel, the putting of US bases in saudi arabia, kuwait, etc. these were unavoidable problems due to the instability and actions of middle eastern nations.

Sure, the reason for going to war was wrong. the American people were most likely lied to, or at the very least the government played the fool in the intelligence communities leading to bad decision making. but to sit on the outside and cluck at the effort now is a dumb attitude. Since hindsight has shown the reasons for going to war to have not come to be, we should discount the good that has come of it (directly and indirectly)? come on.