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Old 01-20-2005   #1
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I just wanted to take this opportunity to make sure you were all aware that the special introductory pricing for the T3Report ends on January 31. 2005.

For the low introductory price of only $150, you will get a monthly report showing you not only every site that has a link to you, but who has a link to them. You will also discover who else they are linking to.

"So what?" you might say, "I have traffic logs, I know who is sending me traffic."

This may be true, but did it occur to you that you have affiliates that have great potential, but because of their linking relationship to you it is not being realized?

You can also find virtual goldmines of potential affiliates when you find out who is sending traffic to your affiliates. You can go after that second level traffic source and perhaps get them to sign up and send their traffic directly to you.

Every month for a year you will get an email report showing all the new links that are discovered. With close to 2.5 million unique domains, and more than 90 million URLs in our database we are providing a service that would take you 100's if not 1,000's of hours to research on your own.

Combine that with the fact that all links are verified before the report is sent to you, T3Report puts all the other options to shame.

Here is another plus. For only $250 we will do the same on any of your competitors.

If you are opening a new sponsor program, or even a new TGP and you want to find out where the big boys are getting their traffic, T3Report is for you.

If you want to purchase or trade traffic with someone, you can verify the quality of their traffic.

We even have special options available where you can provide us with a list of your affiliates and we will spider them for you and will guarantee through a confidentiality agreement to not provide the information to your competitors.

Now is the time, get in early before the prices go up on February 1, 2005. This is data that would take you forever to retrieve on your own. Check out our Domain Lookup, and the sample report provided at T3Report.com

If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me direct at baddog@t3report.com or ICQ 16075497.

It will be one of your best investments of 2005.
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Take a look at the sample report on the website http://www.t3report.com to see an actual website (it's actually one of baddog's domains) to get an idea of the amount of data and exposure to traffic that the report shows.

Around 8 months in the making and ready for prime time.

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Here is another plus. For only $250 we will do the same on any of your competitors.

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We even have special options available where you can provide us with a list of your affiliates and we will spider them for you and will guarantee through a confidentiality agreement to not provide the information to your competitors.
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So if the competitor has a confidentiality agreement with you then you won't provide the data to someone?

I think this is potentially a great product, I'm just confused as to the semantics of the marketing.
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color me confused too ... all affiliate programs with porn sites are competitors ... there's only so many affiliates to go around, and most programs (especially the big ones) are using the same core of affiliate traffic ...

so exactly what are you guaranteeing that you won't break confidentiality? by not reselling the specific report that was commissioned by that sponsor? will you sell new reports for each sponsor on identical niches?

from my understanding, and I hope you can clarify, it seems like once you'd done this a few times, it would all be crossing over itself ...
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So if the competitor has a confidentiality agreement with you then you won't provide the data to someone?

I think this is potentially a great product, I'm just confused as to the semantics of the marketing.
We do our own spidering, so what we show as the number of found affiliates is probably alot less than the actual number.

So in order to get more value out of the report, paysite programs have asked if they could provide us with their list of affiliate webmaster domains, in order to get a more indepth report.

Their concern is if they provide this info, then anyone who orders a competitor report on them, well get to see all of their affiliates.

We have come up with a way that we can accept a paysite's affiliate list to create the richer report, and also keep it so that they information is not used for others.

Over time, we will uncover more and more of their affiliates through our spidering, so that information would be provided in a competitor report.

So for the same $150/year for a paysite's domain, they can get alot more data if they provide us with their info. It is a trust factor that we don't share their data (along with a confidentiality agreement), but it's one that many have expressed the interest to do, so we have created that option for them.

Eventually we'll have most of the affiliates found, so its just a matter of time, but having the affiliate list handed to us, means we provide a better service to the subscriber of the report of their paysite.


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color me confused too ... all affiliate programs with porn sites are competitors ... there's only so many affiliates to go around, and most programs (especially the big ones) are using the same core of affiliate traffic ...

exactly, that's why in the confidentiality agreement we state that any affiliates that we find through our own spidering, will be included in the competitor report.

The way we achieve this, is we have a "blacklist" table, where we enter all of the affiliate domains.

When we run a competitor t3report on a domain that has supplied us with their affiliate list, we compare the 1st level domains (affiliate level) with the blacklist, and where there is a match, we don't show that domain.

As we do our spidering, we compare the domains we have found with the blacklist, and then delete from the blacklist.

Over time, the blacklist for that specific domain will diminish. So it is a matter of time before do find all affiliates for a particular domain, that's our job.

The confidentiality agreement just ensures that we don't use that given information for others seeking a competitive report.

Hope this clears it up.. already have 3 large programs interested in this feature and the trust factor is flattering.


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I will admit I never really understood the CJ method, of irritating the surfer to the point that they clicked just to get rid of the popups. Are advertisers using this same theory on AWM's? Put up an annoying wav file and they will click to get rid of it?

Here's a hint, it isn't going to work. We know to just refresh, or go to another board.

You know how many people have told me that???

No one buys from blindlinks..
No one buys from popups..
No one buys from Email.

Well I've made between 10-20m gross using those tactic....

Basically you have told me two things.

Your a smart surfer , and...
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I will admit I never really understood the CJ method, of irritating the surfer to the point that they clicked just to get rid of the popups. Are advertisers using this same theory on AWM's? Put up an annoying wav file and they will click to get rid of it?

Here's a hint, it isn't going to work. We know to just refresh, or go to another board.

You know how many people have told me that???

No one buys from blindlinks..
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I did not say that. I said I never understood the CJ method. Even when it was popular I never got it.
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FightThePatent, thank you for that explanation, it makes total sense now

the best marketers are the ones who can break down *anything* so that *anyone* can understand it. everything I've seen you associated with has been marketing perfection ;-)
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Of course I was. I think you know me better than that....
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thanks.. i consider myself more of a "product guy" that has been forced to be a "programmer guy" and a "marketing guy" and a "legal analyst guy" along the way to being a "business guy".




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Fair enough


Trust me it worked. ;-)))

Still does.But I do AGREE with you that those days are gone.

Hell TGP traffic is getting "tired" , same people being pushed around from tgp to tgp looking for the best free stuff.

But ,anyway, I like the look of your product.

Very interesting idea.
I know it did, and I know people made bank with it, I just never got it, so didn't pursue it.

Am glad you like the T3Report, all credit goes to Brandon. He was the one with the smarts enough to come up with it, and to ask me to help him market it
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Oh he can be....




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don't get my hopes up!!!

that's like dangling a tim tam in front of a diabetic
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Brandon always has some good ideas. I wish him well with his new venture.

However I find it in poor taste for your hired gun to come over and spam the board for free and in the same thread complain about how he finds a paid ad annoying and suggest going somwhere else.

I think someone has been hanging out at the Zoo too long and lost their manners along the way.
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Brandon always has some good ideas. I wish him well with his new venture.

However I find it in poor taste for your hired gun to come over and spam the board for free and in the same thread complain about how he finds a paid ad annoying and suggest going somwhere else.

I think someone has been hanging out at the Zoo too long and lost their manners along the way.
I apologize if that is how you interpreted it. I was merely stating that it is my opinion that audio ads may have the less than desired effect.

Remember when people used to use them on TGP galleries? That went over pretty well, don't you think?
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I think someone has been hanging out at the Zoo too long and lost their manners along the way.
bad baddog, bad baddog.... now if he did something good, it would sound kinda silly to say good baddog, good baddog.





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Hi FightThePatent

I icq'd baddog but got no reply.

This could be a usefull tool I would use every day..(but not at $250 a domain ! )

Still, I have question.I may be wrong & not be understanding the diagrams correctly but in the example URL ..Top level domains linking to sexpicturespass.com .. the first domain in the list linking to sexpictures is adultbizboards.com.

Your results show that there are 131 links coming into adultbizboards.com.

A simple link : command search on yahoo shows it has 484.

http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=slv1-&p=...ltbizboards.com

Am I missing something?

And, of the links actually listed coming into adultbizboards.com 95% of them are from one domain.
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I icq'd baddog but got no reply.

This could be a usefull tool I would use every day..(but not at $250 a domain ! )

Still, I have question.I may be wrong & not be understanding the diagrams correctly but in the example URL ..Top level domains linking to sexpicturespass.com .. the first domain in the list linking to sexpictures is adultbizboards.com.

Your results show that there are 131 links coming into adultbizboards.com.

A simple link : command search on yahoo shows it has 484.

http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=slv1-&p=...ltbizboards.com

Am I missing something?

And, of the links actually listed coming into adultbizboards.com 95% of them are from one domain.
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First off, I got no request for authorization from you. Are you using Trillian? If so, it sucks when trying to get authorization. If you want to give me your ICQ I will initiate the contact with you.

Secondly, T3Report does not spider boards. The links to ABB are only there as a result of the T3Report spidering SPP (I mod there, so they have my links up all over the place), and other sites that have links to ABB.

Additionally, the sample report is just that, a sample and does not reflect updates of links that were found after August, or whenever that particular report was run.
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I might also point out that if you go to T3Report.com and go to the second page you can do a Domain Lookup

If you put in adultbizboards.com you will see that we have inadvertantly found 23 unique domain linking to them, with 812 backlinks. Compare that to Alexa or Google (who do spider boards) and they only show between 4 and 6 backlinks.

And we weren't even trying
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This could be a usefull tool I would use every day..(but not at $250 a domain ! )


Your results show that there are 131 links coming into adultbizboards.com.

A simple link : command search on yahoo shows it has 484.
nick,

our spidering process is an ongoing one, and you have illustrated an example where we have not gotten all the possible links for that domain (and there are certainly more links to that domain then what yahoo shows).

On the flipside, we have many instances where we have many more links then what google or alexa shows, just depends on where the spiders have found the domains and the linking relationships.

This is why the t3report is a subscription, so that every month you get a report with updated information from the continual spidering efforts. For example, i have about 3M URL to load into the DB tonight from the last 3 days of spidering. Each one of those URL helps to find additional URL/domains and when we generate t3reports for people, helps us to focus the spiders on additional areas to track down.

$250 per domain for a (competitor domain) represents 1 detailed report a month for a year. The reports provide for an extensive amount of information that should allow you to increase traffic, increase revenue, and therefore justify the expense.

Yes, you can go to alexa, google, and yahoo to manually pull some data, but compare what you think you can pull to even the sample report on our site. We show the two levels of linking traffic, as well as where each domain sends their traffic, when not sending it upwards to the next level.

The other problem is the SE are limited to 1,000 search results, and they don't focus on just the adult web, so there data is a smaller subset of what is actually out there, and what we have found.

Our DB is 2.3M unique domains and close to 100M URL.

You can try ordering 1 report on a domain that is in your niche and try it out and let the value of the data and the useful of the data determine if you should order more.


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Ok..thanks Baddog and FTP...gotcha.

Actually we have spoken once before and I am already authorised...but np .
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