"moral values" the key to election

[grimm]

Originally posted by RawAlex@Nov 4 2004, 11:09 AM
Grimm, it's a good job of playing politics, but it is again more proof that the election of the president isn't exactly a straight up contest. Having local, state, and federal officials, plus props and other things all on the same balloting day can lead to abuse. In this election, that abuse was more obvious than usual.

It's just another way for the party in power to abuse the rules, then change them before the next election!

Alex

Alex,


to think that politics is straight up in any way is naive. Not to say that all politicians are crooks, but there are certain compromises that need to be made to get to the highest office in the land. Its all a matter of making your bullshit taste like steak to meat eaters, and a salad to vegetarians. people like Rove are in charge of spinning the stance and stacking the deck. It is a dirty game. there is not a single person in washington that hasn't had to lie to some part of the American public to get where they are. Its a big war to see who will be king.


And then of course, winner takes all, and everything goes back to normal, right? The politics involved in getting a man to office more than likely will not be mentioned again once the man gets there. Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others, right? (Churchill)

Government is cyclical. in 4 years, we may see a democrat, who will look a lot like this republican, because middle of the road is all that is left. I heard multiple commentators talking about how "shored up" the Rep. party is now. they arent shored up, they just figured out first that the majority of america isnt left or right. but stands on the fence, having conservative and liberal views. All american are liberal, All americans are conservative. The Dems just didnt figure it out. If nothing else, you can say the rep. party is organized and well run. the democrats are simply outmanned when fear and necessary military action (im not talking about iraq) is on the table. They are not ready to say "we need to go to war". So when a stratifying moment like 9/11 happens, they come to the table ill prepared and almost sheepishly follow along.

What the Rep. party pulled off on Nov 2 was nothing short of mechanical. It was a close election. but the popular vote meant that, all those people that Kerry and moveon got out to vote... i think Rove used them to his advantage. Sure, you get em out there, and well get em to vote for us. The gay marriage referndums were a stroke of genius as well. Getting mom and pop churchgoer out there to vote, god forbid dudes start marryin dudes


But despite al that

Dont expect great things out your govrnment, vote for selfish reasons, as voting for idealistic reasons is like taking a viagra to watch a porn movie. prety soon you just get frustrated and bored, and maybe a little chafed