3 years later is the US winning the war?

[Mike AI]

Originally posted by PornoDoggy@Sep 25 2004, 05:07 PM
I think the 1,000+ who died in Iraq (850 +/- of whom have died after the "Mission
Accomplished" delcaration) did their duty - the term hero is so overused as to be meaningless. And IF - a very big IF, indeed - a democracy can begin in Iraq then their sacrifice will not have been in vain. The failures of their leadership cannot and should not be used to tarnish the service they provided.

Anyone who thinks that their sacrifice has done a single goddamn thing to enusre "we don't lose 3,000 civilians in a matter of HOURS" needs to back away from the crack pipe and switch to non-electric koolaid. Iraq was not a base for, a source of funding for, nor a source of personnel for alQaida operations. Far from making sure that "al queda supported terrorists no longer have a base in Iraq", we have opened at least a large section of the country to them, and provided them with a new front in the war. The idea that Iraq will act like some sort of candle to attract all the al Qaida moths to the light is extremely niave. Some of those who will BECOME the next generation of "the worlds most notorious terrorists" are not living in retirement in Baghdad, but in fact gaining valuable operational experience against American forces.

PD for the sake of arguement, I wll give you those points.

Iraq is not the battleground - and its attracting islamcists from around the region. They are being killed by the dozen. I would rather then be fighting our military in Iraq, then seizing our schools and killing out children.