We are at war! This is why we are fighting.

[JR]

never have, never will?!?!? you were around at the dawn of time then JR? I'll bet the dawn of time was peaceful and beautiful, until 1 man realized another man's dick was bigger than his, chopped it off, then put on a fig leaf to hide his own small penis from the other men!!! EGO!

this is typically female view of the world.

the dawn of time was peacefull right up until people had to compete with each other to survive. the only purpose women served at that point was to breed more warriors to protect them and insure their own continued survival.

When did you last see a lion rounding up his troops to go take over another lions den?!?!

and you think i am reaching??? EVERY predator attacks other predators to capture/defend territory, food and water and more females for breeding. lions fiercely defend their terrority. how do you think they do it? by arm wrestling? they are victem of the very same basic impulse that drives humans. they are driven by the same basic program inside us all that tells us that what we have might not be enough, so we should go out and get more while defending to the death, what we have. even lovable chimpanzees are brutal killers.

We aren't doing what we are doing for survival, no matter how much we convince ourselves otherwise.

the "why's" are always debatable. but a simple fact is that when any organism is attacked, it defends itself. it makes no difference what logic you use to justify the attack or where your logic allows you to place the blame.

comparing men blowing each other up over a complex web of political/religious beliefs with animals who kill PURELY for survival is a bit of a reach JR.

what seperates us from animals is solely our ability to convince ourselves that we are not animals.