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Old 08-13-2004   #1
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Damn girl, are we even reading the same messages?

It's like we aren't even speaking the same language here all of the sudden. Now if you just wanna trade insults and call each other a dumb ass, that can be fun sometimes, but I kinda prefer to talk biz.

Try to see this from both sides. That's the point I was trying to make. Telling a TGP webmaster not to skim sounds just as crazy to him or her as him telling you that you need to switch to some insane payout scheme.

Outside of the true monster-sized sites like The Hun, the typical TGP gets 50-70% of it's visitors from trades originating off the skim. How can that be you ask? Here's the secret, on a good TGP, english speaking traffic that hasn't been jerked around will typically click a number of galleries. The TGP lets them have the gallery the majority of the time, but a certain percentage of the time they're gonna get bumped over to a trade. The trades themselves work like an oldschool toplist, the more you can send out, the more the site you're trading with sends back. Everyone grows.

There's a lot more factors than that at work to make it successful and make a buck off of it at the same time. But this is essentially why the removing the skim cant be on the table when you talk about improving the TGP game. You'd have to have an idea that makes up for a TON of traffic.

That doesn't make 'em "inflexible", there are other thing that CAN be brought to the table. There are needs in the TGP community. The TGP webmasters have a hell of a battle right now with the cat and mouse game currently being played by fuckers with toolbars, etc. There's an opportunity to establish networks of trust and business while tapping that traffic.

And for the sponsors, if you actually read my messages, remember my caveat. It's all sql and dynamic and it's VERY powerful with a geek at the helm. On my TGPs the thumbs that are MOST likely to get clicked are going to pull up a gallery everytime....or take you directly to a tour in some cases. And in each case it's my sponsors if not my own paysites.

There's opportunities to work together. But so far on Oprano there's a pattern of wanting to change the TGP world rather than work with it.

Or we can just go ahead and insult each other. I've got some great PMS references and mama jokes.
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