TGPs skimming off thumb from sponsor gallery

[gonzo]

Originally posted by cj@Aug 12 2004, 01:16 AM

Gonzo, if you had've built a paysite on your domain back in 94 when you registered it, you'd be retired too instead of posting here trying to convince us you know everything about tgp's!!

93.... and there was no way to build a paysite other than using a BBS system and RIP graphics. Which I did build but the software I ran only supported 12 lines. 12 concurent users never made anyone rich at $20 a year.

However I had zero chargebacks....we processed thru Teleflora among others or people mailed me a check or cash along with an application and a drivers license.

ISDN was limited to 256K so even though I installed it...it never worked. Had it worked I would have found out like so many others did that netusers looking for porn saturated that line.

It was as it is now...all about the traffic/numbers.

Had Fred Clark and the rest of the boys at Salt Air BBS made the version of PCboard/Metaworlds actually work under OS/2 and delivered it... it could have been a different story. What you call cgi scripts we called doors. Prior to 93 I had everything from NGS [nasty grey shit] porn pics...animated .fli and grasprt films...a full dating service whith pics that tied into a horoscope system and several games [all running on ONE 286 at best box under DOS 5.0 and Desqview. 93 I added newsgroups which had 7 bit files which you converted to 8 bit which was as close as you could get to a paysite along with what you know as email [we didnt have @ signs we had a bang path with !'s in between]. It was all that free content that BBS Sysops uploaded to get people to call their systems. They used BIG old watermarks with their BBS name and number. Kind of the same comparison to this conversation as they were all glad for me to download them and make them availible for PAY to my users. It allowed the user to see that there was more out there than GonZoland BBS. Most of those early content producers [Lee Noga wasnt the first] we all knew personally and face to face. Some of the Big Boys were names like Rusty and Edies....granma and granpa running a HUGE server farm in their house under a T1..[got shut down when the Feds chopped the T1 in half with an axe for running and distributing pirated software. Novell didnt fuck around then either.] MacHenry, Windy City/The General, and Amatuer Action. Of course then there wasnt a any clicking going on ...Windows was out I think maybe v. 1.0...so we didnt have these complex issues.

Damn I miss those days. Come home open the mailbox cash the check. Updates were automated machine ran without any intervention.

Even back then though... I never claimed to know everything about those systems. Hell all the techies thought us Adult Sysops were the scum of the earth and we'd never make any money. Them internet domain names was a waste of time and resources...

Im actually more accomplished at Picpost than I am TGP. And up until 4 months ago I was way behind on the TGP curve. What Ive learned since then is that its still about the traffic. If Ive offended anyone or made them feel belitted by making that point I am sorry. The Hun/Shemp/AL4A/World Sex... Im not... nor will I ever claim to be.

I do know that TGP traffic is powerful stuff. Hell Ive been known to send it to my own paysites instead of another sponsors....as well as some AVS. Who knows your own traffic better than you? Working with it you can skim it...slice it...dice it and scatter and smother it if you want. I think they used to call skimming from a thumb to another group of thumbnails TGP2 or something. I remember that it was called cheating when I did it. My point is this. Traffic is essential to your business no matter how or what you are marketing. I hope at least a few of us can get together and effectively trade that traffic without fear of toolbars and other bullshit.

If you cant sell it.....maybe I can and vice versa. Some of you want to submit to a TGP and actually get listed by following a few common sense rules that allow you to make a sale. We want to give you a place to do that as well. And last but not least all the sponsors want traffic. This accomplishes that as well. Its my personal goal to bring the users of this resource a tool that they can use. We hope to accomplish this with the TGP.