The Hun bans Paycounter. sorry KC

[Rolo]

Originally posted by gonzo@Jul 5 2004, 06:26 PM
Best analogy Ive seen in this thread is that TGPs are to the adult world what free programming is to television. A vehicle to sell advertsing.

Yes, and as a advertising vehicle, then they will hopefully evolve into better understanding/balance between free and pay. I think having Shemp and Vick here is good - the debate would be boring without some different perspective

We are currently working on programming features, which will make us better at converting/retaining each unique TGP´s traffic (the demographics can be very different at tgps), however that doesn´t mean that TGPs should stop working/improving their own traffic - making it more focused on buying/consuming.

Some TGPs are good at working with their traffic, however many hurt their traffic by trying to protect surfers from ads, and overfeeding them with hardcore content. Others are just standing still waiting for some input - ex.:

- why is it that TGPs still have rules about pics/videos not being on html, but must be directly linked from the main page of the gallery - sure if you trust your paysite partner or submiter, then it would not hurt the surfer to watch the pic/video on page with ads to the paysite?

- why use the word "free" on the TGPs, when we want people to "pay" - if TGPs owners are right about smart surfers, then surfers already know its free, so why keep reminding them? Its like saying "hey, you are stupid if you pay".

- why list video galleries with several minutes of videos, when 3 * 10 sec is enough for a surfer to get a feel of the content - do we want him to click more galleries on the TGP or go to the paysite, then it won´t happen if he has already cummed.

- why list galleries with little creativity, which shows ALL to surfers, but leaves little to the imagination (ex. cumshot/moneyshot) - porn is a fantasy, not a animal planet documentary, we do not see hollywood putting their "plots" in the trailers.

- why have a advertising vehicle, where the driver of the vehicle do not communicate with his AND potential advertisers... advertisers might have some constructive feedback based on experience working with other advertising vehicles