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After so much time away from the biz watching these conversion rates is almost comical!
i hear lots of trash on all the boards about how great a lot of these programs convert.....but have yet to see even ONE program break 1:800 at BEST! On just about 100% TARGETED SE traffic... this industry definitely has one foot in the grave and the other on loose dirt! glad i came back. 
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Jim - I'll say what most are afraid to
This has been one of the worst weeks ever (which is really odd as I had one of the best weeks of the year just 2 weeks ago) On line porn as we knew it is all but dead* *Hopefully that will be subject to change one day in the future But honestly I think there will have to be a total collapse of the on line porn industry with many closing up shop, sites getting taken down due to non payment of (hosting) bills or what have you and all the beer money fucks gone the pain is only starting AND I CAN'T WAIT!!! If I didn't have a loyal customer base things would be more painful for me But after 7 years of great service I have a loyal customer base
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Vick....i agree with you 100%
from what i see there is NO WAY in hell these folks are going to survive! glad i will be approaching this from a different angle....... it seems nothing for a program to be shaving upwards of 60% nowadays.... (maybe more!) the only thing doing joins from my traffic is my own sites! nothing from sponsors....and i mean nothing..... 0:2000 0:850 0:1280 etc....etc.....etc....... glad i also have a nice customer base that i have kept up with over the last year and a half.....
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PMB is still doing ok...nothing like the conversions/sales of yesteryear, but still ok nonetheless.
We still have a minimum of 5 sites each week doing under 1:500 overall on all traffic (couple of sites consistently, the rest shuffle around a bit). And that's non-shaved, first page uniques, no fucking around with hit counting. 
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I will even target the traffic for the specific niche.......if you convert 1:500 you will be my main sponsor for what we are rolling out....deal? I open this challenge to any sponsors out there willing to make their stats public.....
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Just checking with the boss, but I can't see a problem with it.
I'll let you know soon as I hear from Bill.
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Jim , Vick,
As I have posted , I found the exact same results. I send little to no traffic to adult , 5k clicks tops from old pages sites etc However if you find a non adult program and send the traffic looking for "hot college sluts" there , its like they have a 15 second memory and change there minds and you find the nonadult converts better. Weird , huh. |
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i may have to test some non-adult stuff....i do have a shitload of emails coming in now......i will start a sending soon....
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If you are converting so poorly with all this traffic, on so many different sites and programs, maybe its your traffic?
Traffic is not what it used to be. All traffic has suffered from the TGPization. In the old days SEs were a place for newbies to find their porn. They would whip out their credit cards. Now they know they can find free porn everywhere. Don't even get me started on third party processors. I can still do good conversions with my targeted traffic with right sites, but those sites are getting rare.
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You may be right Mike....I also understand that traffic is not what it used to be...surfers are smarter..more picky....but even if you throw enough SHIT at a wall...something is bound to stick right? that is what i am searching for.....the sticky stuff.... Quote:
I agree 100%
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Here is my take: The best traffic, the stuff that actually will buy something, is getting filtered off more and more by toolbars, redirectors, and BS. Counters that redirect, modified hosts files, etc are all out there taking away your hard earned clicks.
What you are left working with is BS foreign traffic that isn't intending to buy anything. Every so often I turn on a simple tracker that looks at the default browser languages of surfers... less and less US english as a percentage. The answer is in there somewhere. Alex
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pardon the spam, but try Evil Genius Cash
I posted on GFY last month for everyone to send their traffic to us and if anyone had a minimum of 1 signup and worse than 1:600 conversion ratio, I would pay them extra for the signups they did recieve... we had 3 affiliates who emailed me and were able to get a little extra, one of which was sending circle jerk traffic...and he was still around 1:1000...granted I hated paying extra for the fact they're ratios weren't as good as others, but I ad to be a person of my word regarding the challenge the other 2? well, we just can't convert everyone's traffic I guess.... Sign up for Evil Genius Cash, send traffic to both our big tit site and our monster cock site and if the conversions are bullshit, feel free to come here and calla bullshit on me. A few things that help conversions that we helped some affiliates with who were hovering dangerously close to the 1:600 were to send to specific girls on the tour (based upon who pics they were using for advertising. We also advised those with TGP traffic to send to the no-trial option to cut down on the trial leeches (out trial is only that anyways, they get only partial access to our members area and have to upgrade to access our full members area. We've also added some interactivity to our members area to engage the surfer. So, take the EGC challenge and if the ratios suck, than by all means feel free to come here and call bullshit. This is Oprano, no one will let me get away with bullshit.
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well what has happened is over all adult traffic is falling off, and i'n not talking about summer slowdown here.
there has been some growth of foreign traffic, europe/asia but not enough to off set the critical US/North American traffic that has fallen off dramaticly. now thats a fact, based on hard data going back well over a year. However Alex toolbars, spyware havent had any effect on our conversions yet. If they have, its pretty insignificant at less than 1% and would only effect a small % of sites. It might sound funny, but from my point of view it seems Americans stopped looking at porn what do you guys think ??
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I predicted exactly that and for the reasons you mentioned. MOST of the programs getting shaved on the surfer level, even before surfer reaches the designated site, due to "tool bars", zombies, etc redirects, whatever is left is for grabs, but this is very small portion nowadays.
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The Mach3 Razor is out in force right now me thinks too.
I cant prove it, but i convert at least 3 times as well when I send to my own sites than I do when I send the exact same traffic to a very similar sponsor based site. |
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