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Old 12-29-2003   #1
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My girlfriend told me tonight she wants to just be friends right now. She said she has this strong feeling that she has had for a while now, but isn't sure what to do about it. She told me she has had this feeling with an old boyfriend while they were going out, she said she had been right about it. She says things might work out, and they might not. She won't tell me anything more. I really like this girl, she is everything I've been looking for. I was even going to be abstinant for her, because she is waiting until she gets married. There are some girls at work that are calling her a whore because she is dating me, because that is the kind of image I made for myself, which before I met her was true. But after meeting her, I realized it's not all about that. Any pointers? Any questions?
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Dear step son,
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Women are like drugs, once you're hooked, it's hard to quit.
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This is perfect timing young man... You are going to Vegas, and you are now single!

You are a youngster, you should not think about settling down for another 10 years....

Have fun!
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The dreaded "let be friends" speech!! <_<
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I agree! live now while you can. Take it from someone that got married too young!

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Yep yep - wait until you're about 30 to look around seriously. Being married with a couple of kids on an Air Force paycheck would *not* be fun. 80% of our armed forces with families of 4 (that's two parents, two kids) are on food stamps.

Have all the fun you can, experience all that you can, make all of the money that you can. That way when you do settle down and have kids, you can focus completely on your family with no leftover doubts or regrets on things you never did.
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PS - she *did* tell you how she feels.
Men have this habit of "not hearing" when the woman is saying something they don't want to hear.
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PS - she *did* tell you how she feels.
Men have this habit of "not hearing" when the woman is saying something they don't want to hear.
Yup. She did. <_<

And I agree on the "you're too young to settle down" thing that everyone has been saying... and take it from someone who got married *too* early (18 years, 2 weeks) and was married in the military (we got married @ Ft. Sill, OK on base while hub was in AIT) - it's TOUGH. VERY tough.

The letters... the phone calls... trust me, it makes a hard thing even harder. This girl might be everything that you think you want... but at your age it's hard to tell what you really want - and would still want for the rest of your life.

Fuggedaboudit and have LOTS of fun in Vegas - you've got a whole lot of life ahead of you... enjoy!
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Carrie and Kath, great advice.....

Where were ya'll when I was young?? I could have used it!!

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You know how it is .... Women just can't get in touch with their feelings and share them as openly as us guys.







... Ok, ok. But I just HAD to say that ONCE in my lifetime!
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You know how it is .... Women just can't get in touch with their feelings and share them as openly as us guys.







... Ok, ok. But I just HAD to say that ONCE in my lifetime!
oh puhlease!!!

men are whiney pathetic little babies more so than any woman i've ever met!!!

constantly needing to be patted on the head and told 'good boy'

clemson, don't worry about that explanatory crap. I just means 'i dont want to see you any more but you are a really nice guy & i dont want to hurt your feelings so i'm babbling about being friends'.

move on ... plenty more like her and you'll find yourself using the same line every now and again
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men are whiney pathetic little babies more so than any woman i've ever met!!!

constantly needing to be patted on the head and told 'good boy'
Oh sure! We go thru the pain of giving birth and you women yell if you rip a nail!
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cj, you can pat me anywhere you want
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As the oldest (and still the most pursued) guy here, let me give you a bit of unorthodox advice...

Women aren't evil; but they ARE predisposed to being dominatrixes. When one gives you the dreaded 'Let's be friends' speech, you have allowed her to actually BE in control. Enjoy life, and always leave 'em wanting more...

BTW, there's a reason my 2nd wife nicknamed me 'Torone'.
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I realize it's bad form for me to post in this thread but......

Thanks to all for saying the same things I've been trying to get through his head.
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In deference to you Peaches..... ( IE: I fear for my life in Vegas ) I refrained from telling him what I told my 21 yr old son!
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In deference to you Peaches..... ( IE: I fear for my life in Vegas ) I refrained from telling him what I told my 21 yr old son!
Tell him in person. Though I'm not sure if he's going to be able take you seriously since you'll be wearing an elf costume.
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PS - she *did* tell you how she feels.
Men have this habit of "not hearing" when the woman is saying something they don't want to hear.
That hit the nail on the head........

Your problem is that you want to know why? You want to know why she doesn't feel like you do. Right?

There are many questions in life that are never answered, so get used to it. Move on..... you are just going through 'the impatience of youth. At your age I wanted to know how my life was going to turn out... couldn't wait to find out. Well, it never turned out like I dreamed it would. (thank God!) My first loves are just passing memories. You are hurt right now... but I am sure you have heard this before..... TIME takes care of things on it's own. So, don't sweat it.... open your life to NEW opportunities. They are out there if you are ready for them.
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Are you 21 yet? If so I'll introduce you to a new "girl-friend" in Vegas. Just remember, bring lots of cash, women aren't cheap!
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Ahhhh dear grasshopper ....
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He's only 20 AND he's broke. :P
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At least she told you now instead of dragging you along for a few more years, and then STILL not getting any

You have to respect a woman that speaks her mind. Obviously she is not ready for a committed relationship, so why would you want to drive down that one way street?

Your a cutie, come to Texas and I am sure my girlfriends will eat you up...or at least whats left after Brad has his way with you ))
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constantly needing to be patted on the head and told 'good boy'

if you are talking about head of the penis-
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My girlfriend told me tonight she wants to just be friends right now. She said she has this strong feeling that she has had for a while now, but isn't sure what to do about it. She told me she has had this feeling with an old boyfriend while they were going out, she said she had been right about it. She says things might work out, and they might not. She won't tell me anything more. I really like this girl, she is everything I've been looking for. I was even going to be abstinant for her, because she is waiting until she gets married. There are some girls at work that are calling her a whore because she is dating me, because that is the kind of image I made for myself, which before I met her was true. But after meeting her, I realized it's not all about that. Any pointers? Any questions?
This is her way of saying she wants anal. Women have a hard time saying what they mean. Took me a few years!
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I really like this girl, she is everything I've been looking for.
Let me mention that he's also only known her for a few months and only been going out with her for a month or so. I've also heard this same sentence from him many times before. :P

The mentality here is why I didn't raise him in a small town. At the HS here about 40% of the kids go to college where the HS he graduated from had a 99%+ college rate. Around here if you're his age and haven't been married at least once and have a couple of kids, you're running behind.

He needs to get out of here, lol!
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more opinion about people and relationships

You really don't know fully know someone you're seeing until you've known them for a year


There is 30 day nice - all the pleasantries they can show/offer

60 day nice - a little more of the "real" person comes into play

90 day nice - if there is a facade it is starting to crack

6 month nice - If the person you're seeing has problems (hopefully not) they are coming into the relationship more now

1 Year - the cat's out of the bag -
you now have the "real" person - hopefully they are not farting in front of you but if they are - that's what you're going to have

CT - you have only been seeing the female a few months, give it time and space (never easy) keep yourself busy doing positive things -

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more opinion about people and relationships

You really don't know fully know someone you're seeing until you've known them for a year


There is 30 day nice - all the pleasantries they can show/offer

60 day nice - a little more of the "real" person comes into play

90 day nice - if there is a facade it is starting to crack

6 month nice - If the person you're seeing has problems (hopefully not) they are coming into the relationship more now

1 Year - the cat's out of the bag -
you now have the "real" person - hopefully they are not farting in front of you but if they are - that's what you're going to have

CT - you have only been seeing the female a few months, give it time and space (never easy) keep yourself busy doing positive things -

GO HAVE FUN!!!
WOW... is THAT the truth!

Hub and I started dating in February - he went to the Army in May - we got married in August. It's a miracle that we're still totally in love with each other, and have been married for 16+ years. All of the other alumni from his BT unit are all divorced - we are the only "survivors."

In all honesty - we were LUCKY.

You really don't know a person until you've been together for over year - have been through at least one difficult/trying personal/emotional crisis together and have had a couple of really good arguments...

Peaches... sounds like the small town where I grew up in Ohio - only I was "small town" too long - married @ 18, baby @ 20, 2nd baby @ 21... GET OUT WHILE YOU STILL CAN!!!! lol
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Oh John... if you love something, set it free. If it comes back, it's was yours all along.

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hunt it down and kill it

Really I think you just need some time to chill out and see how you feel. You may decide in a month that you never really cared about this chick anyway.
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Oh John... if you love something, set it free. If it comes back, it's was yours all along.

If it doesn't....


hunt it down and kill it

Really I think you just need some time to chill out and see how you feel. You may decide in a month that you never really cared about this chick anyway.
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Honestly, I'm one of those girls that kinda freak out when things are going good .. and when they're going bad .. and when I cant really tell where they're going .. I'm the worst kind. Basically I suggest you put up a little fight .. tell her that she's special to you (but dont go overboard) .. and then just keep it friendly .. Maybe start dating somebody else (or even just say you're going on a date) and see how she reacts. Sometimes you dont really know a good thing until its gone .. give her a little time and space .. and if she's not begging to get back together in a month or so .. move on. Man, I'm so fickle .. no wonder I'm single
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Honestly, I'm one of those girls that kinda freak out when things are going good .. and when they're going bad .. and when I cant really tell where they're going .. I'm the worst kind. Basically I suggest you put up a little fight .. tell her that she's special to you (but dont go overboard) .. and then just keep it friendly .. Maybe start dating somebody else (or even just say you're going on a date) and see how she reacts. Sometimes you dont really know a good thing until its gone .. give her a little time and space .. and if she's not begging to get back together in a month or so .. move on. Man, I'm so fickle .. no wonder I'm single

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Honestly, I'm one of those girls that kinda freak out when things are going good .. and when they're going bad .. and when I cant really tell where they're going .. I'm the worst kind. Basically I suggest you put up a little fight .. tell her that she's special to you (but dont go overboard) .. and then just keep it friendly .. Maybe start dating somebody else (or even just say you're going on a date) and see how she reacts. Sometimes you dont really know a good thing until its gone .. give her a little time and space .. and if she's not begging to get back together in a month or so .. move on. Man, I'm so fickle .. no wonder I'm single
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Exactly - we see how well THAT worked out, don't we? :P
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Yo GonZo! You catch this?

Apparently we're not supposed to be farting on first dates, we're supposed to hold it for a year. Hell, I thought dutch oven was appropriate by third date.

We're obviously going to be staying single for a while...
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As the oldest (and still the most pursued) guy here, let me give you a bit of unorthodox advice...

Women aren't evil; but they ARE predisposed to being dominatrixes. When one gives you the dreaded 'Let's be friends' speech, you have allowed her to actually BE in control. Enjoy life, and always leave 'em wanting more...

BTW, there's a reason my 2nd wife nicknamed me 'Torone'.
A relationship based on a constant power struggle is very unhealthy. It wont take long for her to get annoyed and tell ya to fuck off.


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Old 12-30-2003   #48
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Dont worry when we get to Vegas we will go find some nice church functions and sit down and talk to some nice girls.

Only thing we will do on the strip is go to Gonzo's KK party : )

Peaches.. trust me I will take care of him !
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[i][font=Courier][size=7][color=purple] :grrr:I have 4 boys and as their mother it's my job to teach them women are evil all they want is your money, your dick, and to ruin your life.
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