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Old 12-03-2003   #1
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What a bunch of bullshit to discipline a kid over this.


Boy's Talk of His Gay Mothers Sets Off Furor in Louisiana

A 7-year-old Louisiana boy was disciplined by his elementary school for telling a second-grade classmate that he had two mothers and explaining that gay meant "when a girl likes a girl," the American Civil Liberties Union says.

The incident occurred when the class was lined up for recess and a classmate asked Marcus about his mother and father. Marcus responded that he had two mothers, not a mother and father. When the other child asked why, Marcus told him that it was because his mother was gay. The other child then asked what that meant, and Marcus explained, "Gay is when a girl likes another girl."

According to the A.C.L.U. account, Marcus's teacher scolded him in front of his classmates, told him that "gay" is a bad word he should not say in school, and then sent him to the principal's office.

The boy, Marcus McLaurin, was referred to the school's behavior clinic, where he was ordered to write the sentence "I will never say the word `gay' in school again" over and over, the civil liberties group said.

The group has written to the Ernest Gallet Elementary School in Youngsville, La., demanding that it remove all mention of the incident from Marcus's record, refrain from restricting his speech in the future, and apologize to him and his mother.

"The school called me the day it happened and said Marcus was in trouble for using foul language, and behaving inappropriately," the boy's biological mother, Sharon Huff, said. "I didn't know what he'd said because the assistant principal said he didn't feel comfortable repeating it over the phone. He told me Marcus would bring home a note. I was imagining something horrible. But when Marcus came home with the note, all it said was that he'd told another child I was gay, and explained what gay meant."

Administrators at the school in Youngsville, 57 miles southwest of Baton Rouge, did not return calls. But Dr. H. James Easton, the superintendent of the Lafayette Parish School System, released a statement yesterday disputing the A.C.L.U. account and saying the school's actions had nothing to do with the issue of sexual orientation.

"I have concluded," he said, "that the discipline was related to ordinary student disturbances, which were hindering the classroom learning process and which were addressed in an appropriate fashion by the teacher and school administrator."

He added, "The student was not belittled or embarrassed and this entire matter was reported based on a lack of accurate information."

Ms. Huff, who moved to Louisiana six months ago to be with her partner, Heather Manley, said Marcus had not previously faced any problem about having two mothers and seemed withdrawn after the Nov. 11 incident at school.

"To tell a 7-year-old boy that he can't talk about his family not only makes that child feel confused and hurt, it violates his constitutional right to free speech and equal treatment," said Ken Choe, a lawyer for American Civil Liberties Lesbian and Gay Rights Project who is handling the matter.





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they were on BBC overnight radio last night. It is shameful.
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ABsolutely pathetic....that poor boy.

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Ya know, notice how the super didn't say exactly what 'really' happened according to the school's account? If the ACLU's account was truly 'fictional' as he claims, you'd think he'd want to clear that up with specifics no? *shakes head*





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Why the hell would any parents try and teach a 7 year old what the word "gay" means???

I have seen situations like this, and they tell their kids they are roomates until they are old enough to understand the reality of it.

Kids say stupid things, and do not realize it. Its a shame to see such a burden placed on such a young kid having to explain his mom's sex life to his friends at school when it is totally not necessary. Especially in the south!

Love the pic, wonder which one is "dad," its hard to tell.
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Little brat deserved to be disciplined -- that's not an accurate definition of the word.
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Love the pic, wonder which one is "dad," its hard to tell.
They both look like "dads".
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And if the parents were cocksmokers, and not lesbians, you can be sure they would be trying to take the kid away from them.
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I hereby nominate Ernest Gallet Elementary School for the Assclown of the year Award


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Hey what the hell... someone should design a line of kids clothing, call it GAY brand for kids. Teach them about GAY as soon as possible.

Maybe even do BABY GAY, and dress them up like little gay boys and girls so they grasp it early on in life. Help them understand what gay means!

Button up style shirts for the girls, pleated slacks, maybe some butch boots, and pink overalls for the boys... it will be smashing!
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just proof that even 2 moms cant raise a kid correctly.

without dad women will FUCK UP KIDS.
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It's stupid shit like this that forces PD to be a liberal....

I don't remember seeing this couple or any females that look like them on any of the lesbian paysites *I'VE* seen....

Maybe the ACLU should do something about that while they're on the case....

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just proof that even 2 moms cant raise a kid correctly.

without dad women will FUCK UP KIDS.
I disagree. Mothers are the ones that instill the most in kids. My father was always away on business, never got to see him as much growing up.

My mother was a gem and gave us a great upbringing.



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I don't remember seeing this couple or any females that look like them on any of the lesbian paysites *I'VE* seen....

Maybe the ACLU should do something about that while they're on the case....

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And they can all take trips together to the Supercuts to get their mullets trimmed!
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KRL: would you allow your child to live with two moms and be taught about being gay at age 7? HOw long have they been teaching this kid these things?

My point was simple, if dad was around maybe things could be different?

Despite not seeinjg him often, dad still laid the law down, did he not?

Sure moms instill the most in us, but there ARE certain things I feel women CANNOT teach their kids, and for one reason or the other, it involves the bonds between a father and son.

No desprespect to single moms, my mom was one. Somewhat still is and has 3 children.



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You guys laugh, but this clearly represents injustice in the system. This is the final evidence needed to prove that market forces do not work and do not fairly care for the disenfranchised in our society.

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My point was simple, if dad was around maybe things could be different?
"Could be different" in what way? What has the kid done wrong? Where has anyone said he is anything except a well balanced 7 year old? What do you want "different"? Could the dad being around somehow stop the school from acting like a bunch of idiots?
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BTW, my kid knew what "gay" when he was around 7 as his gym teacher was about as butch as they come (and had a female "partner"). Maybe if his dad was around, he would have had a different gym teacher. :P
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Could the dad being around somehow stop the school from acting like a bunch of idiots?
Replace SCHOOL with MOMS.

The answer is yes.

"Mommy, what's a carpet muncher?"



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It's stupid shit like this that forces PD to be a liberal....

I don't remember seeing this couple or any females that look like them on any of the lesbian paysites *I'VE* seen....

Maybe the ACLU should do something about that while they're on the case....

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Once again Diamond Jim is the voice of logic and reason

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BTW, my kid knew what "gay" when he was around 7 as his gym teacher was about as butch as they come (and had a female "partner"). Maybe if his dad was around, he would have had a different gym teacher. :P
My kid is 9 and he knows what is means too. Its pretty hard for kids not to learn it with it all over TV like it is now.

I told him there is nothing wrong with people being gay it just means two people of the same sex love each other.
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Why the hell would any parents try and teach a 7 year old what the word "gay" means???

I have seen situations like this, and they tell their kids they are roomates until they are old enough to understand the reality of it.

Kids say stupid things, and do not realize it. Its a shame to see such a burden placed on such a young kid having to explain his mom's sex life to his friends at school when it is totally not necessary. Especially in the south!

Love the pic, wonder which one is "dad," its hard to tell.
You've got to be kidding.

The boy was ASKED about his mother and father. If he is living with two mom's, and he didn't know what gay was, how the HELL would he be able to understand it and express it to those who ask??

If the child didn't have gay parents, then he/she might not have questions....but the fact that the child LIVES with two gay people (who he LOVES btw), it would be logical for him to understand at least the basics.

From his answer to the other child's question, it seems he was given just that. A BASIC understanding of the meaning of being 'gay' in relation to HIS experience.....two women.

And BTW, this isn't about his mother's 'SEX LIFE', it's about her sexual orientation...hahaha.
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Its funny butch to butch means they're thinking like 2 men that are gay. Its kind of like being double gay. Interesting psychologically.
Some friends of mine who are married where the male is VERY feminine and the woman is VERY butch. My theory has always been that they're both gay, they just don't realize it. :P
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i wonder if either of them can cook?

which one does the most cleaning?

who does the laundry?

do they switch off, or is it a family thing with little 'GOnna Be Gay Son' and the 2 moms doing all the chores a s a family event?
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KRL: would you allow your child to live with two moms and be taught about being gay at age 7? HOw long have they been teaching this kid these things?

My point was simple, if dad was around maybe things could be different?

Despite not seeinjg him often, dad still laid the law down, did he not?

Sure moms instill the most in us, but there ARE certain things I feel women CANNOT teach their kids, and for one reason or the other, it involves the bonds between a father and son.

No desprespect to single moms, my mom was one. Somewhat still is and has 3 children.
Like I posted above Fletch, my son is 9 and learned about gays at the same age as this kid. Gay is everywhere. He asked me to expand on what it was beyond what his understanding of it was and I tried to explain as best I could.

I don't have a problem with someone being Gay. I've had a couple good friends over the years that happened to be gay and hey if that's your thing so be it.

I think they should have full legal rights like straight people do also.

On the father mother subject. Yeh, my dad laid down the law, but it was my mother that was the law. He was a softy compared to her. Couldn't get anything past her ever watchful doting eyes. She was a bit over protective I think to compensate for the fact my father was up in New York City so much or traveling all over. I really owe everything I am to her, much more so than my dad. He was a great father and I have no complaints other than I found out later in life he had a lot of girlfriends on the side and I resented the fact that he had free time to come home to the family and instead spent that extra time with his girlfriends up in NYC after work.
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i wonder if either of them can cook?

which one does the most cleaning?

who does the laundry?
Seems to me those are the exact same questions asked in a "straight" household. :P
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i wonder if either of them can cook?

which one does the most cleaning?

who does the laundry?

do they switch off, or is it a family thing with little 'GOnna Be Gay Son' and the 2 moms doing all the chores a s a family event?
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On the father mother subject. Yeh, my dad laid down the law, but it was my mother that was the law. He was a softy compared to her. Couldn't get anything past her ever watchful doting eyes. She was a bit over protective I think to compensate for the fact my father was up in New York City so much or traveling all over. I really owe everything I am to her, much more so than my dad. He was a great father and I have no complaints other than I found out later in life he had a lot of girlfriends on the side and I resented the fact that he had free time to come home to the family and instead spent that extra time with his girlfriends up in NYC after work.
Everyone's experience is different.

What about the kids with whore moms who dont raise their kid and cheat on their husbands?

Bad moms and cheating dads are more common than gay people.



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do they switch off, or is it a family thing with little 'GOnna Be Gay Son' and the 2 moms doing all the chores a s a family event?
I think its a hard situation. I can only imagine the ridicule that little kid will have to endure in his years ahead.

We live in a sexually upside down world now. Before things we're kept in the closet. Now there is no more closet.

There's always the debate about are you born gay or do you just become gay.

I think its in the genes and that's why people have a tendency to end up in that alternative lifestyle.

I always wondered if the really garish gay men talk that way just to differentiate themselves profoundly from straight men or if that's really how their vocals are.
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I have known plenty of single moms who live together raising their kids and are NOT gay.
Based on the attitude against lesbian parents you've shown here, they very well may be gay but are worried about your reaction if they admit it to you.
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It is a tough situation.

But the earlier they get the kid spouting off about his gay parents, the sooner he's gonna get his ass kicked out on the playground.
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and fyi- When I was a teenager I worked for a woman who was a very masculine lesbian and lived with another female who you would think is a man. They were both raising two kids and guess what? They told the kids they were just roomies til they were old enough to get it.

Both were excellent parents but didn't try and teach the kids about gayness when they were little, so they could go to school and mouth off about it to their friends and be made fun of.

Kids in today's world don't need shit like that.
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Well, I know solidly, my mother never cheated on my father. In that era I think it was more the men. Today, yes, I think way more women cheat simply because way more women are now in the workforce and around men all day and that's were most cheating starts.

In the 50's and 60's moms stayed home, so the opportunity to cheat just wasn't there as much. Then when women's lib happened the whole thing changed and that's when women started cheating more and families started falling apart, because women stopped being moms and started being corpies.
Hot women have always had the availability to cheat. The postman, milkman or vacuum cleaner salesman prolly got lucky quite often in the 50's and 60's.

But you're right....the advent of women in the workplace opened the doors for even ugly women to get laid!
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