American Citizen held 18 months without a lawyer

[KC]

Originally posted by LadyMischief@Nov 30 2003, 09:08 PM
Unfortunately for him, his crimes fall under the Patriot act. And under the Patriot act, they don't ever have to charge him with anything formally as long as he is supposed to have been involved in any terrorist activities. In fact, even if he is a born American, I believe he can lose his American citizenship under the act.. (or is that the Patriot act 2). And people still want to vote Bush back into office.. scary shit.

It will be interesting to see how the Patriot Act plays out. I have a hunch the lawmakers got a little too greedy in some places.

http://www.epic.org/privacy/terrorism/usapatriot/

I've been reading a bit about the oath's of office various officials are required to take.

http://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/histor...Oath_Office.htm

The Constitution contains an oath of office only for the president. For other officials, including members of Congress, that document specifies only that they "shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation to support this constitution." In 1789, the First Congress reworked this requirement into a simple fourteen-word oath: "I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support the Constitution of the United States."

Serge, I was also a little surprised that you said "I don't give a fuck about amendments"

I think YOU also took this oath when you became a US Citizen!!

INA: ACT 337 - OATH OF RENUNCIATION AND ALLEGIANCE

Sec. 337. [8 U.S.C. 1448]

(a) A person who has applied for naturalization shall, in order to be and before being admitted to citizenship, take in a public ceremony before the Attorney General or a court with jurisdiction under section 310( an oath

(1) to support the Constitution of the United States;
(2) to renounce and abjure absolutely and entirely all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty of whom or which the applicant was before a subject or citizen;
(3) to support and defend the Constitution and the laws of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic;
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http://uscis.gov/lpBin/lpext.dll/inserts/s....htm#slb-act337