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Old 08-22-2003   #1
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Have you seen me singing the praises of, or even coming close to defending, the idiotic antics of the "ecoterrorists" in this thread? I reacted to the extremism of your language, just as I would have if a PETA freak stumbled into Oprano. For the record, I would be just as (but no more) comfortable talking about "industrial earth-destroying capitalist dogs" as I am in debating you about the intelligence of the average environmentalist. Whey you are dealing with a preposterous premise, the so-called ideology of it makes little difference.

In case you missed it behind your assumptions about what I believe, I HAVE NOTHING BUT CONTEMPT for the antics of these fools. As an old leftist with a little bit of knowledge and experience with nonviolent movements I have a certain amount of respect for civil disobedience, but vandalism is not civil disobedience by any stretch of the imagination.

You claim that the majority of environmentalists are either wackos or sheep. You are entailed to your opinion - and when it comes to the wacked out sheep of PETA, ELP, et al, I completely agree with you.

Where you and I part company is that you wish to paint all environmental organizations with the same brush - and that just doesn't wash, any more than the equally simple-minded conclusion that all corporations would be willing to create another Bhopal by their very nature. I suspect that your opinion comes from the your libertarian belief that the market will take care of things; where it comes from is not important. I hold almost all the "isms" in equal contempt.

As far as whether I am a moderate or not ... the most radical tree huggers I know would admit that the only possible way to keep Oprano from ultimately falling over flat on its right side is to sacrifice a couple of old-growth Sequoias. It's not hard to come across as a fire-breathing leftist where folks can talk with a straight face about liberals and other believers of foreign ideologies, or the socialist state of California.
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