Loyal Micro Niches

[Dianna Vesta]

Lots of stuff here. I’m going to snip some and reply to some. CJ, you always have given great advice. Don’t think I’m not listening to you and some other great advice I’ve gotten here. See below…

>>>The reason behind this is that not many people run these type of sites other than those who are into the micro-niche themselves ... how could you build a fake sock odour site? i have been building members areas for 5 years, trying to make something out of not much usually, I often research a niche and source some exclusive content ... but there are some niches i just don't get ... most porn purveyors prefer to stick with what they know - which is why you should be working on creating an online empire with the wide range of rare niches you can cater to.>>>

DV: I pretty much do stick with niches. The biggest challenge is content. I spend so much time trying to purchase, produce and harness it that it leaves me little time for anything else.


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Are the number there? Yes. If I get 5 signups a day off a micro niche it’s worth it to me because I know I can retain them. If I have a base of 200 subscribers at around 24.95 a month that’s 4990.00.


>>>How much is it going to cost you to set up the members area for these micro niches? I'd guess roughly 3 times as much as a standard hardcore paysite? ... maybe not for you Dianna, as you have certain resources & market knowledge at your disposal that not many have ... but for most of us, the profit to grief ratio is wak ... lots of outlay for a potential 200 subscribers a month ... i'd rather go for a bigger market for less effort & grief ...

you have a unique position in this industry with so much history & specific knowledge at your disposal ... instead of trying to change what exists, focus more on where you can fit into that dynamic & benefit from it.>>>>

DV: This kinda what I do and what I’m doing. More below.



>>>I see your business as having a few key areas of revenue that fit into the evolving industry dynamic ... you've mentioned all of them before ...

1) niched 'ezine' content plugins for paysites covering all the micro-niches & niches you can think of. contact one of the big feed companies like pornholio or (fuck, i can't even think of a big content company) who will resell your 'plugins' for you for a %. sit back and forget about that part of the business except for doing updates on the ezines. because you are already doing certain updates to your niche sites, structure it so that your paysites and leasing paysites are plugging in the same thing ... you have the same amount of update work, but a second revenue stream with a cost of nothing but bandwidth.>>>>>>


DV: It’s taken me over 6 months to pull enough resources and information together just to plot out a plan to create these plugins. I must say that I vacillate because the market is so unpredictable. The writing/audio content I produce isn’t cheap. It makes more sense for me to build leased galleries. The end of 2002 it looked like sites would gear more towards exclusive content which makes a lot of sense to me.

So I approached two large companies and suggested that I build sites, produced quality niche sites and they resell them in their network. Don’t you remember my rant about this last year? If a large program network focused on promotions, traffic, affiliates and left site production to an owner/publisher paying a %, it seems to me like they’re niche sites would be successful.

I will admit that I’m not that savvy with traffic, affiliate programs, etc. My sites endure, they’ve been around a long time and they make money.

I’d love to find a company to do that. I got interest but no bites.

>>>2) affiliate program, with a number of paysite frontends that are designed to CONVERT with members areas built with a collection of plugins from your collection. pay a recurring or an active member payout to reduce your initial payout risk. build some really good tools for webmasters, good banners etc ... then get out there and boardwhore your ass off ;-)))) webmasters WILL try your product if it is unique, matches 'keywords' in their traffic, & at least pays *enough*. >>>

DV: lol- isn’t that what I’m kinda doing here? Lol- I just installed all kinds of automated scripts, built an online community www.othersex.com that is starting to bring me all kind of traffic and sign-ups. I’m ready to hire more staff and build a shit load of niche sites. I’ve got a dozen small niche producers who will sell me their stuff cheap cheap – it just takes time, I’m moving along. Trust me CJ I’m aware of the missing component in my network. I get offers from little fish. I need a big fish.

>>>3) buy some traffic from sharky's mailers & i think mikeai also run double opt in mailers ... there are plenty of people around here who will work with you to build a reasonably priced traffic source & who are always looking for unique smut to send to their newsletter subscribers.>>>

DV: We’ve bought these in the past and they didn’t work well for us.


>>>i want to build a frontend or something for your content ... i keep looking at your site and wanting to take the information and rearrange it. ;-) maybe one night if i am inspired i might play in photoshop >>>

DV: which site? Niche Cartel? Lol- Let me tell you what… I had a very good plan, went through THREE programmers. My biggest challenge is to articulate what I want and have someone consistent enough to follow that plan. Right now I’m developing product and I’ll get back to Niche Cartel. I’m training a girl to do my updates. I’m able to focus more on writing & seeking out producers. On many of my sites I am the draw. There’s a huge difference in my retention when my members see me active on my sites. I can’t be everywhere.

>>>or you could run a design contest to launch the affiliate program ... have webmasters build your sites for you and only pay the one who wins just kidding ... there are lots of incentives you can offer ... traffic, money, prizes etc. >>>

DV: Thank you. All good advice & you are a pro. I am working on several projects and I’ve already launched a few. I’d like to get at least two more sites open. In Niche Cartel I have a mall program that hasn’t been set-up. I have over a dozen artist – writers, photographers, video, sound… who are desperately looking for a way to sell their content. There’s just not enough profit for me to broker pennies so the only way I’d do this is an automated cart that let them manage their own store. I’ll use one of my merchant accounts, no problem.

I need a backend lease/plugin script that lets a webmaster sign-on, choose the content directories they want and subscribe monthly to my feeds. I just haven’t found anything secure enough or automated enough. I’m close. Once that’s in I’ll start loading it up, feed my sites and lease it out. Still, I wonder the direction of the industry.

Here’s a question:

If I leased my sites as plugins, as entire ezines, how does that affect my content license? Content I purchase a license to publish only in that site?

If you look at SWOIT, an excellent concept but isn’t that a loop hole? I mean its one site accessing a bunch of others. By leasing my Ezine plug in, would I basically be doing the same thing?

I’m ready to build more sites. If a big fish swims my way, I’ll listen to offers, however I’m making money now, my signups are increasing and I still have time to play with my farm. Eventually I’d like to write full time and let someone else worry about bandwidth, conversions, etc.

It’s all good.