Who's the best Democratic presidential candidate?

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Originally posted by Mike AI@Apr 11 2003, 12:05 PM
Bush I was terrible. He had no vision, no real leadership, he seemed tired. Most of his policies sucked. He was a "caretaker" President.

What legislation did Clinton push that has been so great? What about his other policies? Lets face it, he really did not have any. Clinton's biggest acomplishments is that all of his large projects got rejected by Congress. ( Health Care, etc...)

Clinton would be a great guy to drink with, but he only cared about power and elections - he was constantly "on campaign". He was a marvelous speaker, he was a master of charisma, and a charmer.... but he was and is a fraud with NO real leadership skills because he did not LEAD....


Clinton did not real long term harm ( but for some National Security issues) because he did not get much passed - he lorded over a great economy because his hands were tied and he left alone. Which is what most Presidents should do. Thing is President's policies rarely effect the economy they are in term for....

First of all, I don't think you can appropriately evaluate a President for a decade or so after he leaves office - there are just too many things to shake out. It's way too early to start talking about Bush in terms of his "greatness." Oh, I understand the partisan comparisons to past President (pro or con, depending on the orientation of the person doing the comparison) - that's just S.O.P.

IMHO before a reasonable person reaches a conclusion about his leaderhip ability, to use Colin's example, one ought to see just where the hell he's leading us - and it is way too early to tell where that is.

Re Slick Willie - I don't have a very high opinion of Clinton's presidency at this point - but let's get real.

I cannot recall a President in my lifetime that faced an opposing party and a Congress as hostile as Bill Clinton did for six of the eight years of his two terms. No Democratic Congress that I can recall has ever treated a President the way the Republicans treated Clinton, with the possible exception of the way the Democratic congress treated Nixon in his last nine months in office.