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Old 02-16-2003   #1
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You will forgive me if I am skeptical ... unconvinced ... okay, if the idea of comparing GWB to FDR makes me wanna PUKE. The man has squandered a wave of sympathy for the United States after 9/11 in no time flat. The man who believes the U.S. has a right to act unilaterally where ever it wants to hardly seems like the ideal candidate for the stature of the President who created the United Nations.

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There was a Pearl Harbor, it happened September 11th, two symbols of what America stands fell to the ground with thousands of people inside, the Pentagon was attacked, the White House was next
When the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor we knew the Japanese did it. Everybody in America knew war was coming except the Isolationists and the U.S. Senate.

When alQaida committed that unspeakable act, we went after them. I repeat what I have said all along - if the U.S. government had a shred of credible evidence that Saddam Hussein/Iraq was involved in 9/11, we would be discussing him, his regime, and quite possibly the city of Baghdad in the past tense. No nation on earth would have stood in our way. There is a circular logic, smoke and mirrors aspect to the way Bush and Co. are selling this thing that makes me very nervous - and I think we need to go in and do this job.

I think we need to go in and do this job - but I wonder if people know what this job entails. I'm hearing this fantasy talk from so many people - we're going to go into Iraq and make a nirvana of stable democracy out of it. The people in the other countries in the region will be so jealous of the McDonalds and Starbucks overwhelming Iraq that they'll overthrow their governments and set up more democracies. The Palestinians will be convinced that armed struggle is futile and become passive, thus making Israel safe. The lions will lie down with the lambs, dogs and cats will live in harmony, and everybody will be happy and earn tax-free dividends.

BULL FUCKING SHIT. I think viewing it as doing ANYTHING to stop terrorism is absolutely delusional. The idea that this will materially improve the security of Israel is ludicrous. The President who campaigned against nation building is now going to figure out why Humpty-Daddy didn't go there - we're going to go in and build a stable country in the Arab version of Yugoslavia. We've got troops in Afghanistan with a government that depends on us for it's very existence, and where we have control of 5% of the country 12 hours a day on a good day - and that makes somebody from my generation really fucking nervous. We are going to provide alQaida with the best recruiting campaign they've ever had. We're going to alienate a substantial portion of the world with our heavy-handed pseudodiplomacy. And meanwhile, back at the ranch, the North Koreans are showing their asses ...

I think we need to go in and do this job. But selling the people on the whole "domino" theory of how things will improve on the terrorism front and in the Middle East is selling snake oil. This is a long, hard road down a very slippery slope we're taking. What I'm afraid of is that it will still be going on when that grandson of mine (who turns 9 in a few weeks) is old enough to serve (because his grandpa thinks that's what real patriots do).

Bush as Franklin Roosevelt? Hardly. I worry he's more like another Democrat, one far more recent. "Hey, Hey, LBJ ... "




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