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Old 12-17-2002   #1
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Not coincidence But not boats either...(althought they are fine boats...would love to have one).. I lived in Cape Hatteras for about 4 years back when... Wish I had never left When I needed a unique nick for the net back ion n94-95, I typed it in backwards, saw I could still pronounce it and said "what the hack"...used it since

Now, on to the ongoing topic....

JR you ignorant slut......... Just kidding (used to love when Dan Akroyd and Jane Curtin did their point-counterpoint..lol)

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The portions of the act that allow the eavesdropping on your personal communications across the net are in direct opposition to both the spirit and the letter of the fourth amendment and parts of the fifth amendment of our constitution.

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Ok, so that wasn't specific enough ?? I don't know what to tell you then..lol.. I can detail how it is in violation , but I did that in a subsequent post answering that...

anyway, I was not tryiingo to "raise the alarm" so to speak... I don't know how to convey what is wrong with giving the government this kind of authority without citing past abuses... It is what has been done in the past with these types of powers that should keep us wary of giving them in the present.. We need to learn from history and history says that if you give the government (or any other "Authority") far reaching powers, they will abuse them....

The old screw me once, shame on you, screw me twice, shame on me attitude in a nutshell actually....

The federal government exists first and foremost to perpetuate itself... It's first priority is the survival of the government, as it should be... Because of this, any administration will seek far-reaching power to accomplish this goal. Clinton and FBIgate for example, Nixon and Watergate, the list goes on. These were all abuses of power with the ultimate goal being perpetuity of the administration and it's goals... If we afford the government the right to to eavesdrop on whatever they want, whenever they want, it will eventually come back and bite us on the ass........

Now, is the government going to do it anyway...probably.. But for the most part it will be worthless information because it won't stand up in a courtroom... Does the government actually have to right to do these things without it being run be a unique department? Probably... That is where grey areas come in... Because of the nature of the internet, transactions can go through any number of servers before they get to their destination.. Many of these will be government owned servers.. Does ANY organization have the right (responsibility too) to monitor what goes across their servers.... by all means.......

So, the case could be made that whether we put it into actual legislation or not that the government already has the right to look at certain transactions, those that go across their servers....... Do they have the right to watch what goes across other servers? If the owners of those servers allow them too, then by all means they have that right.......


lol... I have now lost my entire train of thought on this and I have a big ass database project yelling in my ear that my deadline is less than 14 days... so I need to get to work....

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