Secret Court Ok's Wiretapping Powers

[T-Rav]

i am not the one using paranoid and inflamatory language like "spying on citizens"


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Oh sorry, I mean surveil and detain. Is that better? Does that make sound less intrusive of our privacy? It was not intended to be paranoid and inflamatory...If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck...It sounds like fucking spying on citizens to me...Jesus Christ...

Do you think the founding fathers/states were being paranoid when they chose not to ratify the constitution prior to including the "Bill of Rights"?

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i am comfortable with the knowledge that nothing can be done that is so unpopular and yet cant or wont be undone by the next administration.

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I also am confident in the system. That does not mean I have to like every piece of shit they put in front of me. I don't like it now, and I won't like it when it is "undone". If and when it can be undone. Once something becomes socially acceptable it is very difficult to "undue" something.

So, we can agree to disagree. I do not want more government intrusion into our lives. You are ok with it, and support laws to legislate more government into our daily lives and invade our privacy...coolio...as long as we speak clearly on the matter. I am paranoid and inflamatory. So be it...