Senate turns down an independent Katrina investigation

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Originally Posted by PornoDoggy

I think you are very, very wrong about the investigation into 9/11. I don't think it is fair to say that we knew what went wrong at all. Merely knowing that we fucked up is not enough. This is the reason that an aircraft accident investigation takes so fucking long - because they literally attempt to rebuild the plane to see what went wrong, rather than concluding that the deaths were casued by "unscheduled high velocity contact with the ground."

The reason that I suggest an independent commission is to depoliticize it. That's the only way that you can hope to stop (or minimize) the whitewashing of facts or the political finger-pointing. Investigating the response to Katrina won't solve the problems of those who were devastated by the storm - it MIGHT miniminze the problems for the next people caught in a similiar situation.

What exactly did we discover about 9/11 from that commission that we couldn't have figured out on our own? Seriously, there wasn't much to investigate in that other then us ignoring threats and our vulnerability to attack, yet congress felt it necessary to grandstand and make believe something was being accomplished.

The 9/11 comission was all about placating "the people" and making us believe they were doing all they could. Purposely slamming a Boeing into a skyscraper and having an "unscheduled high velocity contact with the ground" are 2 completely different things. There were no malfunctions to speak of in 9/11 therefore no need to rebuild the plane to see what went wrong. I think the fact that 2 planes hit 2 towers explains pretty clearly what went wrong. We didn't need a commission to tell us we're too arrogant to think we're vulnerable. I think it is fair to say that. We got too comfortable, planes got hijacked, people died. Pretty much sums it up right there, no commission required. When you think you're untouchable, you're more prone to being touched. And we got touched, scratch that... we got bitchslapped.

Hindsight is 20/20, there's no need to investigate what went wrong, we already know that. The levee's were subpar (which we've known for 10 years now), reaction time was subpar, response was minimal, president was too worried about vacationing and there is most definitely still a "class" issue in this country. We also fell victim to the whole cry wolf mentality and didn't take the threat seriously since the last 15 "threats" turned out to be nothing. The only purpose an investigation serves is to say "hey look at me, i'm doing something now vote for me next term." I dont need a commission to tell me we fucked up, I need people to make sure we don't fuck up again. It's ironic to me that people think by investigating something, it'll better prepare us in the future. It won't. Threats loomed, we ignored them and tragedy happened. Why waste the time investigating what we already know when we can devote that time and those resources to better preparing for the next catastrophic event that may take place.

Im speaking mainly about a bipartisan investigation, not an independant one. Though both, in my opinion are still pointless.