Is Immitation Really The Best Form Of Flattery?

[Lee]

Lee, you brought this over here, so I'll tell you exactly what I think. I was nice to you on your own board when you kept locking up threads left and right instead of just letting people have some discussion about your banning of Cybersocket, Bedfellow and Mansites, and turning them into a bunch of *****, as well as your insistence that anyone who was personally affected by the issues should email you instead of your addressing it like an adult.

For the record, ManSites isnt and never has been banned over on GWW oh and yes, i did request that anyone from the two banned companies that had issue with being banned from GWW email me to work out the issues at hand, to date, i have not been contacted by either the company owners or, anyone working at the two companies. Instead, i was contacted by a load of people who admittedly, were 'friends' of the two banned companies yourself included kimmy. I clearly stated that i would only deal directly with the two banned companies after they were banned for stirring up the shit on GWW about our Vegas and Phoenix events, if people cant follow simple instructions, thats not my issue.

Mansites, Cybersocket, Bedfellow and several other gay companies have been staunch supporters of the Phoenix Forum since the beginning. They have contributed many many dollars and man hours to help make it arguably the best show of the entire year, year after year.

Agreed and this is actually going to be our second year support the Phoenix Forum.

You, in your misplaced egotistical arrogance, seem to have designated yourself and your board as the harbingers of all that is gay in adult, and the arbiters of all that is correct within that community.

No we havent, our community members have done that. I am the first to admit a board is only as good as the community it has posting there and, despite some companies coming to GWW and spamming the shit out of their own sites and stirring up shit for the sake of it, GWW still remains the largest and friendliest resource community for the gay market place.

So when these companies, with a much more established history, took you to task for attempting to make it appear that your events were THE gay events, you got all pissy and banned them from your board. And now you come over here to bitch about the fact that they've played you at your own game. I tried to warn you that you were alienating many people with your actions and your attitude, but you don't listen to anything but your own ego and insecurities when it comes to advice.

Kimmy, if you think that was the only reason they were banned you are sorely mistaken. That was the final straw in a miriad of activites on the two banned companies parts, including approaching companies around the time we were promoting our Vegas events and telling them if they sponsored the Gay Webmaster Bash they would have been ripped off by both Gary and Myself.

After your bitching and complaining to and about AVN and especially Aly, regarding these so called politics that no one but you actually seemed to perceive, at least outwardly, in every space including this board, that you could find, perhaps poetic justice is served by the fact that these companies are taking a very proactive stance towards reminding the gay community, as well as the webmaster community at large, that they have spent lots of dollars and lots of time and energy to create the very situation in Phoenix that makes YOUR party schedule attractive.

Kimmy, again you seem to be under the delusion my problem with those two companies is that they are sponsoring the Phoenix Forum just like we are, this isnt the case at all. My problem specifically, which was why this thread was started was their blatent attempt at diluting our established service mark of the Gay Webmaster Bash.

This whole 'issue' with those two companies has been around for many, many years, not just with myself and Gary but with many other companies in the gay market place, the lies they spread about our officially sanctioned events in Phoenix not being so, was just the icing on the cake, you can only fuck with my business for so long before i take action, legal or otherwise, in this instance i chose to ban them from my board.