American Citizen held 18 months without a lawyer

[Carrie]

Originally posted by JR@Nov 30 2003, 11:34 PM
do you have any proof of that other than a guy being detained who was training with Al Queda to blow up Americans?

This brings up a curious word, "proof".

I haven't seen any proof that this man *was* training with Al Quaeda or that he planned to blow up Americans.
Neither have you, because the evidence has not been presented in a court of law. It's just someone's say-so at this point.

If they grabbed Serge tomorrow and threw him in prison for sending coded terrorist messages on Cotac.com, would you believe them or would you be telling them to prove it?

If they threw *you* in prison tomorrow claiming that *you* were part of Al Quaeda and planning to blow up Americans, would you sit there calmly or demand a lawyer and a trial?