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Old 12-12-2002   #24
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.... uhmmmm..... er.......... well. i guess in this misguided banter of yours, you may have went and actually looked up the Veto Override i am talking about and that is really cool. However, in your haste to respond and save face, it seemed again to escaped your attention that it is in fact contradictory to say Reagan "controlled" the same Senate who voted overwhelmingly to override his own veto. sounds like a definate "lack of control" to me. and it sounds like the system again was working exactly as it was intended to by its very creators.
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IT'S HIS PARTY!! The one HE was leader of and the one who whines and cries about how fiscally disciplined they are. Are you saying that presidents don't have a TON of influenece over how their party behaves and votes in the Senate? Are you saying that Reagen was so weak and UNWILLING to spend political capital to try and maintain fiscal discipline within his party even though that is what they CONSTANTLY crow about?

I'm skocked, shocked to hear that Republicans (demos do it too before people start whining) talk out of the sides of their mouths!! h34r:
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