An observation on the current business... - Page 2

catfightreport · 04-29-2008

Ron Paul!

sarettah · 04-29-2008

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Originally Posted by catfightreport

Ron Paul!

Um.. Good luck with that

catfightreport · 04-29-2008

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Originally Posted by sarettah

Um.. Good luck with that

lol.

yea.

I had to throw it out there anyway. haha.

deviant · 04-30-2008

Given the fact that I have been personally "researching" tube sites for some time, I don't think they have what it takes to destroy paysites. Usually the content is pretty lame and scattered. Paysites on the other hand generally follow a specific theme or niche, once you find a paysite that you like, you don't have to weed through a mountain of crap to find the content you like and time is money.

Unfortunately, I'm no expert.

gonzo · 04-30-2008

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Originally Posted by deviant

Given the fact that I have been personally "researching" tube sites for some time, I don't think they have what it takes to destroy paysites. Usually the content is pretty lame and scattered. Paysites on the other hand generally follow a specific theme or niche, once you find a paysite that you like, you don't have to weed through a mountain of crap to find the content you like and time is money.

Unfortunately, I'm no expert.

Devvvvvvvvv hahahaha

This arguement has been going on for sometime.
First it was pop ups,free sites,circle jerks,TGPs,MGPs etc etc.
While I do agree that this industry as a whole gives away way too much I hardly think that tube sites as a whole are going to destroy pay sites.

Program owners need to invest just as much effort as they do on those tours to the actual content in the members area.

Relying on a consumer to retain just because he forgets is lame when Im certain that if you give them what they expect and continue to update that monthly- the rebills will come in.

Its easier for program owners to complain that tube sites are destroying their busines than to issue a DCMA against some of these sites.

Toby · 04-30-2008

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Originally Posted by deviant

...I have been personally "researching" tube sites for some time, I don't think they have what it takes to destroy paysites. Usually the content is pretty lame and scattered...

I'll agree with that to only a small degree. Tube sites are not nearly as big a threat to niche specific paysites as they are to general hardcore paysites. The niche specific video content is somewhat limited and therefore pretty much gets lost among the general hardcore on most tube sites.

deviant · 04-30-2008

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Originally Posted by gonzo

Devvvvvvvvv hahahaha

Oh yeah, I'd better watch what I say, I forgot mama bear can see me here.

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Originally Posted by gonzo

First it was pop ups,free sites,circle jerks,TGPs,MGPs etc etc.

That's why I think tube sites are just the latest phase and will end up being nothing more than marketing for sites with real content. The reason I believe this is perhaps a little crass but think about it. What is the average consumer of this product doing? What is his or her motivation for pursuing this content? Does he/she really want to spend 10minutes looking for a short clip, then have to stop and wait while hunting for something else to put things back in business? After a while of this, I would imagine the consumer would grow tired, find a clip that they like, its source, and sign up there. Again, I could be wrong, but I think tube sites will become the next marketing strategy for paysites.

People who aren't going to pay for content, aren't going to pay for content. If it's not tube sites, it's torrents and peer-to-peer networks.

Toby · 04-30-2008

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Originally Posted by deviant

...Does he/she really want to spend 10minutes looking for a short clip...

But... many of these tube site have much longer clips. 5, 10, 20 and even 30 minutes.

There's a huge difference between legal tube sites with approved sponsor clips and illegal tube sites with clips stolen from member areas.

Legal tube sites aren't really all that much different than MGP's. Illegal tube sites are another story entirely.

ali25extreme · 04-30-2008

I have been on the free sites..they are a quick fix but a huge mess. Quaility is worth paying for..that is the type of traffic I want anyway..those who know what they want and like what I offer! As long as I do my job correctly I should have no problem with the competition!

DannyCox · 04-30-2008

I have played around with various "tube" sites with Carol's videos. I have the one minute teaser's we use in the free area that I submit. These have the URL clearly on them. But how they really work I have no idea, as the problem is there is no tracking. You have to rely on people typing in the URL from what they see on the video, and you know how lazy most surfers are!

deviant · 04-30-2008

I actually just added a MGP style tube portion to my site, I import a series of 30 second flash movies and below each video provide a link to the sponsor's website where the viewer can download the whole clip. That's really the way to go. Otherwise, I agree, users are too lazy to type (seriously). There is also a way to implement clickable ads in the flash videos which is cool, how you do that, I'm not completely sure. I wouldn't want to host videos on my site if it wasn't easy to get back to the sponsor, it just seems like a loose loose situation.

gonzo · 04-30-2008

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Originally Posted by deviant

I actually just added a MGP style tube portion to my site, I import a series of 30 second flash movies and below each video provide a link to the sponsor's website where the viewer can download the whole clip. That's really the way to go. Otherwise, I agree, users are too lazy to type (seriously). There is also a way to implement clickable ads in the flash videos which is cool, how you do that, I'm not completely sure. I wouldn't want to host videos on my site if it wasn't easy to get back to the sponsor, it just seems like a loose loose situation.

Flash can run a blur...put the url in a window behind the active page. I can tell you I used to use that with the old asf video format MS had several years ago. It was a great way to monitize the old peer to peer traffic.

EmporerEJ · 05-02-2008

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Originally Posted by Rcourt64

GET BACK TO WORK DUDE

What progression have you to show these past few months ?

Now THAT is funny.....
I LIKE that picture!

I think I ought to use that in my AutoBiography.

EmporerEJ · 05-02-2008

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Originally Posted by Rcourt64

GET BACK TO WORK DUDE

What progression have you to show these past few months ?

And to respond to your comment...
Been working very hard past several months. We are VERY close to the new factory open.
We just finished painting the second floor.
Then the gears are gonna fly!
More production space, more employees, etc.

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deviant Posting from a Sock Puppet Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: pronville Posts: 83	Re: An observation on the current business... I actually just added a MGP style tube portion to my site, I import a series of 30 second flash movies and below each video provide a link to the sponsor's website where the viewer can download the whole clip. That's really the way to go. Otherwise, I agree, users are too lazy to type (seriously). There is also a way to implement clickable ads in the flash videos which is cool, how you do that, I'm not completely sure. I wouldn't want to host videos on my site if it wasn't easy to get back to the sponsor, it just seems like a loose loose situation. __________________ Do you like tits, blowjobs, anal fucking, and teen hardcore videos? Gay Porn Need a domain name?