Oprano Front Page


Go Back   Oprano Adult Industry Forums > The Business Of Porn - Closed For Posting > Legacy Archived Main Board

Notices

Legacy Archived Main Board Business chat and general industry chat. All participation is welcome. Dont post your fucking spam here.





Check Out YnotMail

The Original Oprano Flat Board (Thanks To Sarettah!)---
Oprano Swag Shop
"History Of Porn Timeline
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-11-2005   #1
grimm
Cramming 3 people in a Room to Attend Show
Stop Lurking and start posting! Register now!
 
grimm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: New Orleans, LA
Posts: 5,306
Default

I thought only democrats wanted bigger government.

not to mention the trampling of the constitution.

House approves electronic ID cards

Published: February 10, 2005, 5:46 PM PST
By Declan McCullagh
Staff Writer, CNET News.com

The U.S. House of Representatives approved on Thursday a sweeping set of rules aimed at forcing states to issue all adults federally approved electronic ID cards, including driver's licenses.

Under the rules, federal employees would reject licenses or identity cards that don't comply, which could curb Americans' access to airplanes, trains, national parks, federal courthouses and other areas controlled by the federal government. The bill was approved by a 261-161 vote.

The measure, called the Real ID Act, says that driver's licenses and other ID cards must include a digital photograph, anticounterfeiting features and undefined "machine-readable technology, with defined minimum data elements" that could include a magnetic strip or RFID tag. The Department of Homeland Security would be charged with drafting the details of the regulation.

Republican politicians argued that the new rules were necessary to thwart terrorists, saying that four of the Sept. 11, 2001, hijackers possessed valid state-issued driver's licenses. "When I get on an airplane and someone shows ID, I'd like to be sure they are who they say they are," said Rep. Tom Davis, a Virginia Republican, during a floor debate that started Wednesday.

States would be required to demand proof of the person's Social Security number and confirm that number with the Social Security Administration. They would also have to scan in documents showing the person's date of birth and immigration status, and create a massive store "so that the (scanned) images can be retained in electronic storage in a transferable format" permanently.

Another portion of the bill says that states would be required to link their DMV databases if they wished to receive federal funds. Among the information that must be shared: All data fields printed on drivers' licenses and identification cards, and complete drivers' histories, including motor vehicle violations, suspensions and points on licenses.

The Bush administration threw its weight behind the Real ID Act, which has been derided by some conservative and civil liberties groups as tantamount to a national ID card. The White House said in a statement this week that it "strongly supports House passage" of the bill.

Thursday's vote mostly fell along party lines. About 95 percent of the House Republicans voted for the bill, which had been prepared by the judiciary committee chairman, F. James Sensenbrenner, a Wisconsin Republican. More than three-fourths of the House Democrats opposed it.

Rep. Eleanor Holmes Norton, a Democrat from Washington, D.C., charged that Republicans were becoming hypocrites by trampling on states' rights. "I thought the other side of the aisle extols federalism at all times," Norton said. "Yes, even in hard times, even when you're dealing with terrorism. So what's happening now? Why are those who speak up for states whenever it strikes their fancy doing this now?"

Civil libertarians and firearm rights groups condemned the bill before the vote. The American Civil Liberties Union likened the new rules to a "de facto national ID card," saying that the measure would force "states to deny driver's licenses to undocumented immigrants" and make DMV employees act as agents of the federal immigration service.

Because an ID is required to purchase a firearm from a dealer, Gun Owners of America said the bill amounts to a "bureaucratic back door to implementation of a national ID card." The group warned that it would "empower the federal government to determine who can get a driver's license--and under what conditions."

http://news.com.com/House+approves+electro...ubj=news.1028.5
__________________


Think horses, not zebras.
grimm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2005   #2
sextoyking
3 1/2 More Years...
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Portland, OR.
Posts: 1,523
Default

As I sing the theme song to "1984" - Is big brother really coming or is he / she already here?

What a bunch of bull shit Grimm!!!!!

More tracking, more eyes, etc all in the name of national security, terrorism, etc.

I blame dems and repubs for this shit.
__________________
Huge Online Design Portfolio at Webinc.com
http://www.webinc.com
--------------------------------------
50% Commissions on All Sales!
http://www.wishing.com/money
sextoyking is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2005   #3
Almighty Colin
Members
Want to see your own Advertising Here!
 
Almighty Colin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 8,059
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by grimm@Feb 11 2005, 04:54 PM
Why are those who speak up for states whenever it strikes their fancy doing this now?
That's a good one.
__________________
Almighty Content. Your one stop for live content.

Secret Friends, LATINA Secret Friends , My Cam Friends
Almighty Colin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2005   #4
sextoyking
3 1/2 More Years...
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Portland, OR.
Posts: 1,523
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by Almighty Colin+Feb 11 2005, 02:57 PM-->
QUOTE (Almighty Colin @ Feb 11 2005, 02:57 PM)
__________________
Huge Online Design Portfolio at Webinc.com
http://www.webinc.com
--------------------------------------
50% Commissions on All Sales!
http://www.wishing.com/money
sextoyking is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2005   #5
grimm
Cramming 3 people in a Room to Attend Show
Stop Lurking and start posting! Register now!
 
grimm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: New Orleans, LA
Posts: 5,306
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by sextoyking@Feb 11 2005, 01:56 PM
As I sing the theme song to "1984" - Is big brother really coming or is he / she already here?

What a bunch of bull shit Grimm!!!!!

More tracking, more eyes, etc all in the name of national security, terrorism, etc.

I blame dems and repubs for this shit.
didn't you know todd, fear will set you free

fear and hunger are the best when it comes to getting around personal freedoms with a large scale population, wouldn't you agree!
__________________


Think horses, not zebras.
grimm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2005   #6
grimm
Cramming 3 people in a Room to Attend Show
Stop Lurking and start posting! Register now!
 
grimm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: New Orleans, LA
Posts: 5,306
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by Almighty Colin+Feb 11 2005, 01:57 PM-->
QUOTE (Almighty Colin @ Feb 11 2005, 01:57 PM)
__________________


Think horses, not zebras.
grimm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2005   #7
TheEnforcer
Scored VIP to Anton's Piss Tank
Want to see your own Advertising Here!
 
TheEnforcer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 8,781
Default

This pisses me off to no end!! Absolutely drives me nuts!!
TheEnforcer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2005   #8
PornoDoggy
Cramming 3 people in a Room to Attend Show
Want to see your own Advertising Here!
 
PornoDoggy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Amid the Cornfields of Illinois
Posts: 5,366
Default

Hey, it's not just ID cards.

The tort reform package pulls things out of State Courts and puts them in Federal Courts.

Some of the things GW was talking about in regards to insurance reform (to enable small businesses to band together) may override state insurace regulations.
__________________
SEX STORY TEXT Exotic Material for Adult Websites

Available for part time (project or ongoing) work ...

PornoDoggy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2005   #9
grimm
Cramming 3 people in a Room to Attend Show
Stop Lurking and start posting! Register now!
 
grimm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: New Orleans, LA
Posts: 5,306
Default

Quote:


Originally posted by Almighty Colin+Feb 11 2005, 01:57 PM-->
QUOTE (Almighty Colin @ Feb 11 2005, 01:57 PM)
__________________


Think horses, not zebras.
grimm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2005   #10
nlphoto
Members
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Northern Outpost of Hell
Posts: 428
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by grimm@Feb 11 2005, 03:13 PM

didn't you know todd, fear will set you free

and I thought it was work makes you free...
nlphoto is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2005   #11
venturi
Members
 
venturi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 138
Default

"States would be required to demand proof of the person's Social Security number and confirm that number with the Social Security Administration."

Right there the bill is doomed. The Privacy Act of 1974 forbids this practice. I can't fathom the high courts from allowing this to pass into law.
__________________
Step 1: Join NSCash and grab your link codes.
Step 2: ???
Step 3: HUGE PROFITS!!!


Programmer Extrordinaire
venturi is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:38 AM..


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright Evil Empire Inc. 2006-2022