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Old 09-29-2003   #1
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From the October issue of Arena magazine:

http://www.setgo.com/article.html?id=65478...4728eb26b0947ef

Arena is a classy, UK-based "Style for Men" magazine, kind of a cross between Vanity Fair and Details. In the current (Oct. 2003) issue, it's got 40 pages on porn, entitled "Adult Education: How Pornography is taking over the Mainstream," Arena does a major rundown on the blurred lines between "porn, high fashion and art" and the legacy behind this sprawling, money-magnet beast.

50. James Hundleby
49. Sean Michaels
48. Jason Sechrest
47. Ed Powers
46. Ron Vogel
45. Al Goldstein
44. Michael Ninn
43. Colin Malone
42. Jewel De’Nyle
41. Dick Nasty
40. Christian Mann
39. Earl Miller
38. Nina Hartley
37. Peter North
36. Joey Silvera
35. Candida Royalle
34. Luke Ford
33. Ben Dover
32. Bill Margold
31. Dion Giarrusso
30. Lexington Steele
29. Jim Gunn
28. Ron Jeremy
27. Andrew Blake
26. H Louis Sirkin
25. Russ Hampshire
24. Scott Tucker
23. Suze Randall
22. Gina Lynn
21. Serenity
20. Jacqueline Gold
19. John Stagliano
18. Anna Kieran
17. Jill Kelly
16. Rocco Siffredi
15. David Sullivan
14. Patrick Collins
13. Steve Orenstein
12. Tim Connely
11. Sharon Mitchell
10. Jim South
9. Bob Guccione
8. Jenna Jameson
7. Steve Hirsch
6. Richard Desmond
5. Charles Prast
4. Danni Ashe
3. Paul Raymond
2. Hugh Hefner
1. Larry Flynt
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That list is pretty funny....

Thing is its leaving out the REAL players.... Much more $$ made on the net the past 7 years.
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Danni Ashe.

HAHA. About sums up the accuracy of that list.
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yeah, danni ashe and luke ford?

i guess they didnt do their research first :-/

although i do agree with ranking larry flynt #1 (if you're talking about all the flynt companies... video, net, print, casino etc..)
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where's AT&T?
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Rich,

No shit and where is GM / Hughes / Dtv and Dish
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Flynt is definately number 1....

As far as AT&T, Dish, etc.... I think the list is for powerful PEOPLE, not companies.
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Color me dumb, but I can't even seem to find Arena Magazine anywhere on the internet, except one in Australia....am I Googling wrong? I just had to read the other "articles" in it if this is their list of "Porn's Most Powerful", lol!
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At least Luke FOrd is not above Steve Hirsch and Jenna

Danni Ashe #4 ? LOL thats a joke
i bet she sponsors or helped put the list together
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Luke, how come you are way down the list at 34?

Don't those writers know you are the voice of porn?

No comments, Hooper. Why don't you go back to GFY and continue to set yourself up with a lawsuit from TNVCASH.
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lawsuit? who?

the day they sue me will be a cold day in hell. they used my studios for half those fuckin videos they're selling.. and they didnt pay me the rent they owed or for the loan i made them.

they'll talk a big talk about suing me.... but in the end, they will NEVER want to end up in court because i'm absolutely right about what i've said. i never said he had underage girls fucking in his videos. i might type fast confucy, but i'm typing the truth.
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And given that they couldnt make $3000 note, my guess would be that they cant afford a lawyer either.
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I've never read Arena magazine to my recollection, but the writer must either be someone I know or a big fan of my movies for me to be number twenty-nine on this list! Guess I have to go to Borders and check out the mag now :P
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Jim do not sell yourself short. I have worked with many people from the video side of things, and you are by far one of the classiest - most professional person I have dealt with!

Anyone who needs custom video content done, should see this man!
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Damn! I had this great post and it vanished. Sorry if it pops up after this one. Hooper, I think it is important to warn others about webmasters who are using underage girls, but you are taking a big chance by making those charges on the boards. Everyone is sue crazy...even if you are telling the truth.

I think we should have more lists. How about a list of every porn message board with the names of the biggest posters. Another list giving us the traffic for the top 100 porn websites. A list of the current lawsuits against porn webmasters and current updates every day. A complete list of KB's jobs for the past ten years (just kidding)!! A list of the top 100 richest porn webmasters and the exact amounts they make each month/year. And a list of the porn webmasters with the largest dicks and their exact measurements...for the girls!
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A complete list of KB's jobs for the past ten years (just kidding)!!
thats just good entertainment. i like watching him and his brother trying to spin off his nomadic work habits.
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Uh that list seems flawed at best. And who the fuck wants to read a magazine called Arena that deals nothing with hockey anyhow?
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i dont know either of them except that i spoke to D$ a few times on the phone. I think he has probably done ok. promoting the Players Ball can't be that easy.

i dont know KB except from the boards. the only one i have heard KB is a great marketing person is from his brother. i can't recall anyone other than those two talking about how great he is. generally, when a business or company benefited in the way they would have you believe they did from his "expertise", they typically let the world know.

i have always been baffled by a few people in this biz who can do such a great job promoting themselves and can't seem to get their own shit together and are usually broke.
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I'm one of the few that admits to liking Luke's writing but I have to ask ...

How is Luke Ford powerful? ScottP made him look like a little bitch.

Who reads what he writes anyway?
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i dont know either of them except that i spoke to D$ a few times on the phone. I think he has probably done ok. promoting the Players Ball can't be that easy.

i dont know KB except from the boards. the only one i have heard KB is a great marketing person is from his brother. i can't recall anyone other than those two talking about how great he is. generally, when a business or company benefited in the way they would have you believe they did from his "expertise", they typically let the world know.

i have always been baffled by a few people in this biz who can do such a great job promoting themselves and can't seem to get their own shit together and are usually broke.
After reading that quote yesterday from KBizzle in Wired...

ALl I can think of is that College Fuckfest clip where the song goes ...."suck my dick bitch....suck my dick!"

I guess thats self promotion of sorts?
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Powerful? Obviously, porn's most powerful man is me, as I could dominate the rest of the list without any serious physical effort.
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Colin, don't let that weight loss cloud your vision. Luke has always had a big audience. How can anyone take porn seriously. Sure, many have made millions, but they are few in numbers. ScotPB never got the best of Luke. ScotPB made threats. Big fucking deal. I have been reading about all the fights that will happen in January in Las Vegas. These clowns are all talk. They have small dicks and excessive amounts of testosterone.

Porn boys, grow up and act like men. Take some estrogen. Clear your brains, and check out Luke's writing on http://www.lukeford.net

There is a big archive of his interviews with non-porn producers, directors, writers, and talented people. That is where Luke shines. It doesn't take much for someone to interview a porn actress by the name of Clitty Sally. But try sitting down with legends in the film industry and coming up with material never before reported. That takes talent.
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lol, eh, what did you expect from a UK mag

Those rankings are a little odd to say the least. And actors/actresses are really never that powerful. If its not you, it will be somebody else...



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How much are you going to pay Labret? ;-) ;-)
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Colin, don't let that weight loss cloud your vision. Luke has always had a big audience. How can anyone take porn seriously. Sure, many have made millions, but they are few in numbers. ScotPB never got the best of Luke. ScotPB made threats. Big fucking deal. I have been reading about all the fights that will happen in January in Las Vegas. These clowns are all talk. They have small dicks and excessive amounts of testosterone.

Porn boys, grow up and act like men. Take some estrogen. Clear your brains, and check out Luke's writing on http://www.lukeford.net

There is a big archive of his interviews with non-porn producers, directors, writers, and talented people. That is where Luke shines. It doesn't take much for someone to interview a porn actress by the name of Clitty Sally. But try sitting down with legends in the film industry and coming up with material never before reported. That takes talent.
I already said I like his writing. He's talented. Now what makes him powerful?

Where's the interview with Scott? I remember Luke getting schooled. Period.



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I didn't miss your comment about liking his writing.

Which ScottPB interview? The most recent one before DUC moved to Setgo? Or the ones from the past? I like the Aussies' (ScottP in your face comments as long as they don't lead to violence.

Why wasn't Persian Kitty on the list? How about Kremen? They have done more for porn than Danni Ashe, Suze Randall, and Hefner. Hefner hasn't done a damn thing in years. He sits around in a rocking chair with nude ladies giving him blowjobs while his staff does all the work. If the names of photographers are going to appear, where is Stephen Hicks?

Lists like this one are for fun. They stimulate conversation and give people a few laughs.
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With the approach of Oct 1st it is becoming more and more obvious that at this moment the most powerful entity in online porn,at least,is VISA.

If they yell jump,we bitch and whine,but eventually ...we ask "How High".
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confucy,

Define "power".

The people you mention have no "power" over me.
An befiore you ask,I define power as:
The ability to exercvise control over others,or influence the actions of others.

No one you mention has that form of "power" over most on this board.

VISA sure as hell does.
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With the approach of Oct 1st it is becoming more and more obvious that at this moment the most powerful entity in online porn,at least,is VISA.
Yup. I'm Visa's bitch and admit it.
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Nick and Colin's most powerful (porn) list

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Amen,and I for one love them for it

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I remain undecided. ;-)
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Colin, using your description of power, I would say that PK and GK do have a certain amount of POWER. Whether they have power over you is not relevant. They have the power to pick up the phone and call people and get things done. They both have *connections* and they both have made enough money to open many doors.

PK started out in '95 and gradually made Persian Kitty the Yellow Pages of Porn Sites. Gary fought like hell and made major sacrifices and held on to his sex.com, the most recognized porn domain name/website on the internet. Therefore, they have a great deal of power and do influence many porn webmasters.

When two sites are this recognizable, power just naturally follows.

Until you can come up with a list of more powerful people in porn, I suggest you accept my two recommendations and move forward, into the light, my son!
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Colin, using your description of power, I would say that PK and GK do have a certain amount of POWER. Whether they have power over you is not relevant. They have the power to pick up the phone and call people and get things done. They both have *connections* and they both have made enough money to open many doors.

PK started out in '95 and gradually made Persian Kitty the Yellow Pages of Porn Sites. Gary fought like hell and made major sacrifices and held on to his sex.com, the most recognized porn domain name/website on the internet. Therefore, they have a great deal of power and do influence many porn webmasters.

When two sites are this recognizable, power just naturally follows.

Until you can come up with a list of more powerful people in porn, I suggest you accept my two recommendations and move forward, into the light, my son!
There's that Lew De Payne connection again.
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errr Colin didn't offer a description of power.

I did though......

If I was more powerful,you'd have noticed,I guess

Or if you would take the bloody tablets LOL



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Here are some definitions I like...

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\De*lu"sion*al\, a. Of or pertaining to delusions; as, delusional monomania.
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con·fused ( P ) Pronunciation Key (kn-fyzd)
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Being unable to think with clarity or act with understanding and intelligence.

Lacking logical order or sense: a confused set of instructions.
Chaotic; jumbled: a confused mass of papers on the floor.
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sycophantic

\Syc`o*phan"tic\, Sycophantical \Syc`o*phan"tic*al\, a. [Cf. Gr. ? slanderous.] Of or pertaining to a sycophant; characteristic of a sycophant; meanly or obsequiously flattering; courting favor by mean adulation; parasitic.

I could go on but someone might do something mean to me.
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Sorry, Nick. The maintenance men are here to repair an overflowing sink and I got CONFUSED! Where are my pills?

Yes, Gonzo, there is a Lew Payne connection. He is a very talented individual. Don't ask me. Ask PK and GK. Ask anyone who has done business with him. Technical wizards are very special people.
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Oh Nick, I forgot to remind you of #3.

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Ok then confucy

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Sorry, Nick. The maintenance men are here to repair an overflowing sink and I got CONFUSED! Where are my pills?

Yes, Gonzo, there is a Lew Payne connection. He is a very talented individual. Don't ask me. Ask PK and GK. Ask anyone who has done business with him. Technical wizards are very special people.
Sorry Gary is too big of a pussy to post over here...I guess Serge is mean to him or Mike makes him look stupid...maybe he and Kato...I mean KB are busy out at the McDonalds drive thru.

I dont know how to properly address Lew...is it Payne or De Payne?

Everyone knows that PK=Lew. Look at the cut line under my avatar.

So Im stuck with your story. Is it a love triangle with you Lew and Kev...baybee?
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