art vs porn..which is more of a con?

sarah_webinc · 03-03-2003

Elusive artwork shortlisted for £20,000 prize
http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_756569.html?menu=

So, this 'art' might not even exist yet it is shortlisted for a prize. Porn that exists is bad but 'art' like this is culture. How do I become an artist?

Rolo · 03-03-2003

I do not know why I often think of Hans Christian Andersen´s fairy tale "The Emperor’s New Suit", when seeing/hearing/talking about art....

"... The emperor marched in the procession under the beautiful canopy, and all who saw him in the street and out of the windows exclaimed: “Indeed, the emperor’s new suit is incomparable! What a long train he has! How well it fits him!” Nobody wished to let others know he saw nothing, for then he would have been unfit for his office or too stupid. Never emperor’s clothes were more admired.

“But he has nothing on at all,” said a little child at last. “Good heavens! listen to the voice of an innocent child,” said the father, and one whispered to the other what the child had said. “But he has nothing on at all,” cried at last the whole people. That made a deep impression upon the emperor, for it seemed to him that they were right; but he thought to himself, “Now I must bear up to the end.” And the chamberlains walked with still greater dignity, as if they carried the train which did not exist."...

For more fairy tales from Hans Christian Andersen http://hca.gilead.org.il/

Almighty Colin · 03-03-2003

Existential art?

Or should that be nonexistential art?

RawAlex · 03-03-2003

Isn't this sort of like the bs artists who would post up empty canvases, and say it represented "blah blah" and was there to expand people's minds?

No more enlightening than the statue made out of cow shit a few years back, I guess.

Alex

sarettah · 03-03-2003

The competition for which the work is shortlisted will take place next month and is designed to nurture young talent.

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Yeppir, let's nurture the up and coming young artists by taking "NOTHING" and calling it ART.

My first degree is in Art..... Spent a lotta lotta time in class and in the studio producing... I have spent a lot of time since producing...

The so called "ARTS" community has always pissed me right the fuck off by taking tongue-in-cheek works (or supposed works) seriously.... I don't blame the Artists much, because it is the so called "Intellectuals" who place the importance on the piece, not the Artist.... If the intellectuals can't understand it, it must be art.....

Makes it very difficult for some serious artists to break in... They do good work, evoke many emotions, but unless some high muckey muck group pronounces it art, it never gets looked at.........

So, in answer to the topic "Art vs Porn, which is more of a con?"

Depends..... Sometimes the leadin to porn is a con... generally the actual porn isn't, you looked for porn, you found it.. No Con....

Sometimes Art is a con, sometimes it isn't.... But it is easier to spot a con in art... Just listen for the intellectuals going on with their myriad interpretations of "Red Spot On Canvas"....

03-03-2003

Hehehe - you can't help but wonder if "art" like this is dreamt up as a way of taking the piss out of the art establishment :-))

BTW - remember that next time you hear a piece of music with silence in it, that silence could be copyrighted:

http://legalminds.lp.findlaw.com/list/cybe...l/msg41561.html

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Rolo Members Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Six Feet Under Posts: 2,150	I do not know why I often think of Hans Christian Andersen´s fairy tale "The Emperor’s New Suit", when seeing/hearing/talking about art.... "... The emperor marched in the procession under the beautiful canopy, and all who saw him in the street and out of the windows exclaimed: “Indeed, the emperor’s new suit is incomparable! What a long train he has! How well it fits him!” Nobody wished to let others know he saw nothing, for then he would have been unfit for his office or too stupid. Never emperor’s clothes were more admired. “But he has nothing on at all,” said a little child at last. “Good heavens! listen to the voice of an innocent child,” said the father, and one whispered to the other what the child had said. “But he has nothing on at all,” cried at last the whole people. That made a deep impression upon the emperor, for it seemed to him that they were right; but he thought to himself, “Now I must bear up to the end.” And the chamberlains walked with still greater dignity, as if they carried the train which did not exist."... For more fairy tales from Hans Christian Andersen http://hca.gilead.org.il/ __________________ "Chaos is the law of nature, order is the dream of man." ~Henry B. Adams (Historian) 1838-1918

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RawAlex Members $100 for every ImLive sign-up Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 4,036	Isn't this sort of like the bs artists who would post up empty canvases, and say it represented "blah blah" and was there to expand people's minds? No more enlightening than the statue made out of cow shit a few years back, I guess. Alex __________________ Let's go to the edge of disaster Push the pedal and go a little faster Let's slam into a wall at ramming speed Let's go to the edge of a mountain Jump off and lets start countin' Hit the ground and tell me if it bleeds

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sarettah Stay Out Of The Box Want to see your own Advertising Here! Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Lost in the ozone Posts: 10,318	The competition for which the work is shortlisted will take place next month and is designed to nurture young talent. ************************************************ * Yeppir, let's nurture the up and coming young artists by taking "NOTHING" and calling it ART. My first degree is in Art..... Spent a lotta lotta time in class and in the studio producing... I have spent a lot of time since producing... The so called "ARTS" community has always pissed me right the fuck off by taking tongue-in-cheek works (or supposed works) seriously.... I don't blame the Artists much, because it is the so called "Intellectuals" who place the importance on the piece, not the Artist.... If the intellectuals can't understand it, it must be art..... Makes it very difficult for some serious artists to break in... They do good work, evoke many emotions, but unless some high muckey muck group pronounces it art, it never gets looked at......... So, in answer to the topic "Art vs Porn, which is more of a con?" Depends..... Sometimes the leadin to porn is a con... generally the actual porn isn't, you looked for porn, you found it.. No Con.... Sometimes Art is a con, sometimes it isn't.... But it is easier to spot a con in art... Just listen for the intellectuals going on with their myriad interpretations of "Red Spot On Canvas".... __________________ Free Adult Webcams

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Jeremy-RR Guest Posts: n/a	Hehehe - you can't help but wonder if "art" like this is dreamt up as a way of taking the piss out of the art establishment :-)) BTW - remember that next time you hear a piece of music with silence in it, that silence could be copyrighted: http://legalminds.lp.findlaw.com/list/cybe...l/msg41561.html