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Old 02-19-2003   #51
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Hey Shann, got the e-mail from PieCash. I have to say this is one of my all time favorite e-mails I have read. I have been laughing for 5 minutes out loud. You probably should have written it, I bet you would have done a better job. I will not say anything else, do not want to ruin it for anyone else. Please make your on jokes here:

Dear Affiliates,
I’m sure you have all noticed a decline in your joins for the last few days. There was a problem with some of our cc processors but everything has now been resolved. We are testing everything right now and are confident that by tomorrow everything will be all good w/ better conversions than ever . We are also coming out with an amazing new PIECASH V2 program that will be 3 day free trials that will convert off the chart.

I do have some unfortunate news though due to the nature of this business, we are experiencing a situation out of our control. Period 1 payouts will be a little late. We have every confidence the situation will be resolved very soon. We anticipate a week or two delay at this time and ask for your trust and patience. We will update you immeadiatly , when the situation is resolved.

Unfortunately due to these circumstances, we need to temporarily lower our payouts to $30, starting on the 15th. Our conversions should drastically improve so in essence, this will end up beening a good thing and you will be making the same amount of money since you convert better. Our payouts will be raised soon, so don't fret. We appreciate your loyalty and patience during this time, and you will be rewarded for it in the long run.

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"""and they should still be able to beat the poms at least!""""

That was fecking harsh!!!!
aww sorry, you are right of course.. Canada don't have a hope in the cricket really... I must of been thinking about the English soccer team when I said that
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Frist off, cricket? Canada has a Cricket team?

Secondly, i like to shoot guns at people i mean targets when i go to the US b/c all you need is a piece of ID and a 10 second lesson.

Thirdly, I am hungover and bitchy and in no mood.

Lastly, yes since the 15 b/c that was the pay period. And Mike AI I guess you must have signed up since you got the affiliate email, did you send us traffic? Who do you send traffic to Mike AI? You seem to be quite concerned, are you worried about your payouts from us or someone else who uses this business model? You've spent so much time on this topic with so many other things going on, this is your major concern?

And you are correct, I did not write this email but if fucking J D Salinger wrote this email the message would be the same. I know you're not new, I'm sure this is not the first time this has happened to you regarding a delay in payouts. It's happened to me before, have you somehow managed to escape the payout delay that happens here and there? Is it beause you are Mike AI or a super hero? rofl
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Shann do you really want me to go into details about MY opinions on PieCash? I have just been trying to get a discussion of important issues going on. I am far from Superman, nor do I hold myself out as the patron Saint of webmasters. I merely ask questions...

A long time ago, on another board I was give a title called "Devil's Advocate", it is something of a hobby for me.

Now if you want to turn this into an indepth pissing match, I should have some time this afternoon.... I would love to go into depth on the pie cash, babenet issues, and of course break down that wonderful letter line by line.

Just let me know if you want to play ?

The is ready!
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I hardly have time or the desire to get in a pissing match with you Mike AI, it just seems you are more than just a spokesperson for the working webmaster. Or it appears that way. And since you got the email, i take it you did sign up to PieCash. Can you give me your account id # I'd love to see how much traffic you sent us!

I will personally make sure you get paid as soon as we issue payouts. We take care of our webmasters!

If you have some sort of personal issue with PieCash, I'd love to work it out. As far as Babenet, I dont' work there, you'd have to speak to them.

You have my contact info it's in this thread at least once!

Have a great day!
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Shann, we are both busy. Best of luck with PieCash!
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Guille you are more fun to piss with then Shann!!

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Aren't you in Montreal? Will you be at Cybernext? I'm bringing my baseball bat and i have QUITE a swing! rofl

And he is only more fun to piss with b/c he misses all the jokes!
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Hey! We need to put together an Oprano softball game sometime....Micheal?
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Peaches, we should have a softball game at the annual HiRise Crayfish Boil... we need to work on the dates for that...

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I got another e-mail this one is from matrixbucks, they use babenet backe end as well. IT was written much better then the PieCash one in my opinion - Shann you guys should hire this writer! :-)


This is to inform all of our affiliates of a truly unfortunate situation has arisen. Due to circumstances beyond our control we are having problems with our credit card processor which will delay payments for the pay period 1 of February. This delay should only be 1 week. This is nothing to be to worried about as we are still processing sign-ups and have efficiently moved our credit card processing which is converting better than before. We appreciate all of your support and weathering this problem with us. We are defiantly not going to leave any affiliate unpaid and will handle this with the professional manner that we handle all of our business dealings.
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Thanks for the update Mike AI I really appreciate that Pie Cash is always on your mind because now I know we've made an impression!
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i always love stuff like this in emails


"which is converting better than before. "
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i always love stuff like this in emails

"which is converting better than before. "
slav...
I, too have wondered about that "catch all" phrase.....

if its better now, then why wasn't it done before?
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Would you like to hear "due to the changes we're converting shitter than ever"! When things are changed, they are obviously changed for the better, this is a hard concept? rofl

There is only one way to find out now though isn't there?

"i bought a new car, boy is it a piece of shit"
"i dumped my g/f b/c her hummers were too awesome, my new one can't suck cock for shit"

Is this not simple logic?
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Hi, no body can say something serious about that? Im (like a lot of webmasters)waiting for payouts from some sponsors , im my case more than 20.000$, sponsors says the dont know when are we going to be payed because they dont have any news about babenet...
anyone have any serios news about that babenet thing? are they going to pay , and more important are we (the webmasters) going to be payed ?
i think this is a big shit,if babenet has not payed to the program owners thats not my problem i have been sending my trafficc to they and i want to be payed.... i dont care who is babenet or if they have problems with their banks thats not my problem, may be some progams has to think about that and stop clamming here and there they are refutable and old companys whith a good name on this biz and when they have 1 problem they dont pay to the webmasters. Ask for acredit on your bank or do whatever but try to solvent your problems and pay to your webmasters... its very easy to say "dont worry your are going to be payed!! when babenet pays us of course...."

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Would you like to hear "due to the changes we're converting shitter than ever"! When things are changed, they are obviously changed for the better, this is a hard concept? rofl

There is only one way to find out now though isn't there?

"i bought a new car, boy is it a piece of shit"
"i dumped my g/f b/c her hummers were too awesome, my new one can't suck cock for shit"

Is this not simple logic?
say what....?
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"we are experiencing a situation out of our control."
- that's comforting


"Period 1 payouts will be a little late. We have every confidence the situation will be resolved very soon. We anticipate a week or two delay"
- uh-oh, this isn't sounding too good


"we need to temporarily lower our payouts"
- oh fudgesicles!!


"Our conversions should drastically improve so in essence, this will end up beening a good thing"
- why was it, again, that conversions are going to improve?


I think if I got this letter, I would be pretty damn worried about sending any traffic to the sponsor.


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Well most of the time i do not post but i will for the sake of a question. I am not here to piss, moan or justify. Most of the webmasters that have dealt with Matrix know what kind of company we are as well as what kind of people we are.

We are paying our affiliates regardless of the babenet outcome. This situation is only affecting the time frame. As one has stated earilier it is not the problem of the webmaster if Babenet pays out or not nor is it going to be their problem. We run a very ethical and honest company and are not going to make this the problem of the webmasters that promote our programs.
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I swear if people spent as much time working as they do trying to dig up and stir shit on people, everyone would be much more productive.

If you weren't sending traffic to any of these programs and you aren't owed any money, then what does it matter to you?

I recall a few years ago when a couple of processors were having some problems with their cash flow, some sponsors paid up from their own pocket, some refused to pay until they got the money from the processor.

Bottom line is simple, if you don't think you'll get paid, don't send traffic to these sponsors. I can guess what quite a few of them are doing and I'd bet they will be on track very shortly and money will start flowing again.
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posted on GFY regarding this "stuff"

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.p...threadid=110898
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As many of you may or may not know, BABENET the web's powerhuose affiliate program lost it's ability to provide backends to some of the most successful SPAM operations out there. You see many programs like PINK PAYS.COM, ORGASM.COM, and TEENIE PIE were dependent on the use of their processing for the backends of all their sites.

I have been contacted by a few of the programs who use their backend for SOME sites and have been told to not send new traffic to the sites using the backend and was sent a list of sites that were fine to use. Instead I have been told to send my traffic to PYTHON and Dollar Machine. As they convert better bulk email traffic (SPAM)

The closing down of BABENET"S backend cause quite a stir in Porn Valley and beyone because many of these spam operators weren't the brightest of people. Infact any moron who could hit a send button could use BABENT for their backend and make an easy $100,000 a month- especially when BABENT was paying $40 a webmaster? Now let's do the math....How can an affilte program ever afford to pay out $40, or $5 or $70 like SEXHIT and SILVERCASH once did... How You ask?

Double and triple billing credit cards for starters.....perhaps that's how BABENET lost it's last banking solution?

Or perhaps Rob Gould smoked the remaining assets BABENET had in a glass pipe? It's common knowledge that Rob Gould has been fighting his demons with drugs and infidelity for a while...perhaps the walls closed in ? What's the real story BABENET? Are you moving to Thailand with Seth Warshavsky????
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I figured everyone was running over to Python's back end....

Will be interesting to see how it turns out!
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I figured everyone was running over to Python's back end....

Will be interesting to see how it turns out!
That's what I noticed also...

always interesting developments in this industry
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